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excal 1000 help!!

mr300

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I am somewhat new to using the excal love the machine but seem to be having some problems- Went out today-and working the edge of the water in to about a foot or 2 in I had disc at 0-sens at 11:00- when a wave came in it would make a noise-continously until I set sens at auto-then worked for about 156 min and started doing it again. there was a cut in the beach higher found some clad but everytime i got to the edge of it the machine just stopped dead until i moved away from it-i live on Long Island-love metal detecting but would like to have more luck on the wet sand or in water-thus I want to start using the excal more-Any thoughts your help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Steve
 
so the setting would be 12-1 on sens and if under water kick it to 2-what does the auto do lose depth?
 
Auto will give you the least depth. It's a setting that will give decent depth and stable operation but does not maximize the capability of the machine.

I have the Excal 1000 and run mine at 11 o'clock in the wet sand and get great depth and 12 o'clock in the water and it does very well NOW but before I had to run it at 1 or even 2 to get it to settle down and sometiems, to even hold a threshold. Until recently that is. Now it's extremely well behaved, ever since I used silicone sealer to seal the coil cover to the coil. If you're using a coil cover and not cleaning it out several times during the hunt then that is more likely your problem. Salt water and salty sand gets trapped in between the coil and the cover and creates havoc, causing the machine to false and have an unstable threshold. I used to just "deal with it" or run my sens down but ever since I used some RTV black to completely seal the entire coil cover from being able to let any water or sand in, it's been like a different machine. And if I ever need to get the coil cover off, I'll get it off. But I've been hunting with it like that for a couple of months and it's not showing any signs of deterioration. I made a bead around the entire perimeter of the inside of the coil lip and the pushed it onto the coil. I then carefully and neatly used my finger with some more RTV to go around the entire sealed area and make it nice and neat. You can't even tell it's RTV'd on.

You can look at this here on the Explorer forum and it goes for the Excals and beach use as well.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?19,382516,382516#msg-382516
 
You mean coating the bottom of the coil with epoxy as an alternative to using a coil cover at all, right? I did that on my CZ-70 but when I got my Excal I used the coil cover for over a year and emptied it out frequently. As I got into the water more and it beacame more annoying I decided to try the RTV on the cover and it's worked so well I left it that way. Of course you could also not use a cover at all and when you eventually wear through the seam just get a new one. I prefer to protect the coil and so far the cover with the RTV is working excellent. I think the Marine epoxy is a great idea...heck, it was my idea...but that has to be touched up and redone from time to time and I'm not sure if there might be a warranty issue with it. The RTV deal could be undone.
 
Qts I have is: dealing with the all mighty faint quiet signal. I noticed that running the excal on the slight buzz as for threshold, Sometimes while walking slowly I hear the low low buzz suddenly have intermittant greak ups. Not like a typical target. There really is no tone at all, just the buzz from the threshold suddenly stopping when the search coil is in motion. I cant tell if that means start digging or is it just the sensitivity. Analyzing this further, if I thought there was even the slightest tone I would dig,...however, these are not tones, but simple very low low buzzing and then the silence iand the buzz comes right back. Kind of like the excal telling me "I think something is there but it is really deep" but I am not sure.

Any suggestions?
 
OK, here's the deal on that "Nulling" you are describing. When the Excal "nulls out" that means you lose your threshold but you aren't actually getting a "signal", or at least nothing repeatable. What it USUALLY means is that you've gone over something that is discriminated out. Now being a beach hunter, you aren't running any discrimination. Or at least you don't think you are. Because you have it on "1". But there's one thing that the Excal discriminates out automatically and that's iron. So it's entirely possible that you are running over iron. Rusty metal, fish hooks, bobbie pins, BOTTLECAPS(!!!)...lots of those things will cause the Excal to null out and lose the threshold.

That said, it's also possible, as you have astutely noted, that there may be a target of value there that is too deep to accurately register as a good target with a repeatable tone that would compel you to dig. Chances are that it's the former situation...ferrous metal...iron...that is nulling the machine. What you need to do is to use the threshold to determine when you have nearly missed a target...like when you passed close to it but not close enough...or when you have a target that's sufficiently deep enough to SEEM like a null but in fact when you slow down and attack the target from a few different angles, you end up coaxing a "diggable" signal out of it. That's the beauty of hunting with a Minelab (or certain other) machines that have a threshold as opposed to those that do not. For example, my Fisher CZ-70 is a great detector. It gets deep silver and it hunts very well at the beach too...great depth, good on gold. Problem is that it has no threshold and it WILL miss targets that the Excal finds. Due to the fact that if I miss the target by just a little bit, it doesn't hit on it. But if I miss it by the same amount with my Excal, I'm very likely to get a break in the null.

So you have to decide when to dig and when to move on. And when all is said and done, those who dig EVERYTHING dig a lot more trash but they also dig things up that other of us who are more selective tend to miss. Like small, deep diamond rings. Like chains. Like expensive stainless steel watches. Of course you will get a lot of those things too...just by virtue of having an Excal and running disc at 1...once you get proficient with it. And you will. But when you get very good with it you will even have a kind of a "6th sense" on those types of things you mention. To where there will be some little thing that will tell you "DIG THIS!" And you will also gain the subtle ear and experience to know when a decent sounding target is actually a Heineken cap with the crown-side down or a null sound is that same Heiny cap with the crown-side up. And when a "crackly" sound has enough "gold sound" mixed in with it to be a nice gold chain and not a rotten tin can bottom. Sounds crazy, but it's not...many here can attest. The way to get that good is to get out there and get the swing time in and practice, practice, practice. Just like anything else. :shrug:

Hope that helps...
 
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