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Etrac and F70 side by side comparisons

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basstrackerman

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Etrac and F70 side by side comparisons ;)
Ive done alot of side by side comparisons of these two detectors and the results have surprised me quite a bit ... On several occasions the f70 has located a good target that the etrac could not. The weight of the etrac has me testing other units to possibly find its replacement last night at my small town square i had hunted to death for 25 years and only found 1 wheaty with etrac cause its so nail infested.. I started with the f70 since i did find a nice buffalo in 10 min last time i used it there .. This area is not a big area maybe 100x100 with bushes and trees and other things on display.. I was short on time as it was getting dark so i picked out a place in the center....The f70 found 4 targets with good tones and ok numbers within 20 min.. Etrac could not get any of these targets to sound good.. I tried other settings and used open screen and tried the AS coin program and nothing.. It just showed iron in the ground while f70 barely showed a hint of iron. All of the targets were 6-8 inches deep, and had nails mixed in .. First was a wheaty, second was wheaty, third was wheaty, but wait go back over hole and still a good signal so i kept digging, 2 more big nails later and just below the biggest nail of 4" long was a standing liberty quarter at 9 inches or slightly deeper..!! The f70 clearly heard the quarter and showed 68-75 on display but i barely heard any hint of iron other than lower numbers .. I had disc on 4 and i did hear the nail but the good signal was so strong that it drowned out the nail grunt.. Etrac was opposite as it clearly heard nail and made no indication that any good target was in the ground... If i were only using etrac i would never have found these coins.. The last target was a V nickel the etrac gave a slight hint one way that something may be good but it was more like a iron false signal.. The f70 gave a good clear signal with numbers jumpy in the 28-55 range and the nickel was the shallowest target at maybe 5-6 inches So thats my story and im sticking to it! The f series has opened my eyes like the deus has opened eyes of many
 
Very good post! I was much interested since I use the F70 and enjoy it very much. What coil were you using, as I have only used the concentric 6.5" and 10"?
 
Hey Bill! This is a good report...I have the 70 and run it in DP tones...what were your F70 settings please?

I have not really used mine for exclusive silver hunting, more for jewelry, that's why I love those DP tones...
Mud
 
I was using 11" DD coils on both Settings on F70 were sens 70 tones 3H disc 4 never notch I have been finding silver with F70 alot Also jewlery finds are way up:) the F70 surprises me almost every hunt I really enjoy using it..
 
Hum, my F75 LTD vs E-Trac side by side was totally different. I guess the F70 is better than the F75 LTD? I got a video or two on Youtube of my side by sides.
 
Ive seen alot of videos for depth comparisons ... Ive seen very few for masking comparisons and my post was about masking.. Look at Bill S's video of F19 and etrac.. Clearly shows a target easily found by the f19 the the etrac just nulled on.. Most of my sites are littered with nails and chunks of rust and ive been having alot of issues with etrac nulling.. Where the F70 clearly shows something in the ground that isnt rust.. These are my results, im not a rookie and not a liar nif you wanna call me a liar just say it instead of beating around the bush lmao .. Each person has his or her likes and what sounds good to me may sound like junk to you.. My buddy cant stand the mxt pro tones and couldnt find a thing with it but i love it and find many great things with it and the tones sound sweet to me..
 
That is why I don't comment on comparisons anymore Southwind ....... unless you agree with the posters opinion, you come under fire. All comparisons are just one persons opinion for the type of hunting they do in their ground no matter how scientific the comparison is........:shrug: Everyone else's comparisons may, and probably will, vary. :biggrin:
 
Larry (IL) said:
That is why I don't comment on comparisons anymore Southwind ....... unless you agree with the posters opinion, you come under fire. All comparisons are just one persons opinion for the type of hunting they do in their ground no matter how scientific the comparison is........:shrug: Everyone else's comparisons may, and probably will, vary. :biggrin:
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Oh so true Larry !!
 
Larry (IL) said:
That is why I don't comment on comparisons anymore Southwind ....... unless you agree with the posters opinion, you come under fire. All comparisons are just one persons opinion for the type of hunting they do in their ground no matter how scientific the comparison is........:shrug: Everyone else's comparisons may, and probably will, vary. :biggrin:
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Yeah but sometimes its fun to stir the pot and get the blood boiling! :spin::starwars:
 
Of course they will very lol duh unless he lives in central ohio and hunts same areas i hunt then we really cant compare his results with mine.. I know that,,, this wasnt a depth test only a masking test.. Most of the time the etrac hits the same targets there have been some though that due to iron i would guess the etrac just isnt seeing the good targets It is what it is ;)
 
I have to say, I was surprised by an ML Explorer SE a couple years back. The old area was loaded with coke trash and hot rocks. Been all over this area with the f-75. I set the SE in the coin mode and said to myself 'if I get a flash of good numbers, I'm digging. Well, I got a flash, and dug a silver merc, hmm. When I say 'flash' I mean once, not two way, just one flash, eyes glued to the screen. A couple minutes, another flash of good numbers, a silver rosie, wow! Again another quick silver dime numbers blinked on the screen, another merc. My guess is the 75 was thrown off by the coke and hot rocks, it sounds off on hot rocks. At first I thought it was a fluke, but digging two more silvers changed my opinion.
 
Thats great info...ive never heard of coke trash? Sounds like really bad stuff.. I know hot rocks fool me alot.. The area at the town square is so loaded with nails that my etrac nulls alot. My buddy has a safari and we hit this area pretty hard with stock and smaller coils and we have each only found a wheaty....we honestly just assumed it was hunted out from all of the whites machines over the years i have used there. With my whites i would get flashes of high numbers and a good tone only one way.. The F70 had very good tones over these targets but the numbers were averaged because they were lower than normal.. The nickel was only coin i got a flash signal from etrac. First time the etrac missed a good target that my F70 hit good was at a school in the next town over, was a rosie dime 8" deep and about 2" away from a padlock..etrac never seen the coin.. I thought this has to be a fluke.. Dont get me wrong i have found a ton of awesome things with my etrac ... i dont expect people to believe me but i have no reason to lie. These were my results in my dirt :) my biggest issue is the weight of the etrac, although it does feel balanced slightly better than the v3i to me its still heavy..hurts my back. I need a lighter machine . I know the F70 will miss things that the etrac can easily hit..thats just how things go. No matter what detector is used, if you go behind it with most any other brand you will find stuff. I wasnt trying to say one is better than the other,the price can tell you that :) ...
 
Coke is a massive problem over here in the UK,when farm machinary was driven by steam power in the fields they use to empty the coke from the boilers onto the field at random,hence this is what causes the coke trash as you would call it.Can be a big problem,not sure if you folks across the pond have the same type of problem ???
 
Hey Mega B,
i think you just solved a puzzling mystery for me. I searched this crop field last Spring that i know was worked in the early 1900s. Found pockets of mysterious light brown clumps when digging targets. Never thought of coke, either from early steam powered tractors or old homestead stoves which were at one time located on this field.

Far as the eTRAC and iron masking, over the years i probably dug up enough deep corroded nails to build a small house.
Every once in a while with those iffy iron/coin IDs, maybe 1 out of 15 of those type digs i get rewarded with a coin hiding among a nail.

Digging deep bent stubby corroded nails without finding a coin in the hole is no fun but somebodys' got to do it. I'm sure the next detectorist will appreciate me clearing out some of those nails. lol
 
Coke trash, lol...there was supposed to be a comma in between coke and trash....either way, still trash.
 
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