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Equinox has increased the competition!

Hotrod65

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I have been detecting for about 20 years now, I started as a Cub Scout activity with my son. Although 20 years is not that long ago, back then (at least in the Southern CA area) metal detecting was not that popular and in our area had a social stigma attached to it in that it was reserved for the retired old guy who wandered the beach in black socks, sandals and giant headphones (you know the cartoon caricature). In fact back then if you were young and metal detecting you got strange looks, my son actually quit when he was a teen as it was not the way to attract the young cute girls at the beach!

Well things have really changed, now when we head to the beach we literally have to drive for miles to find a spot where there is not someone already detecting. On the 4th of July the beach is the most crowded day of the year, so of course our usual plan is to head down on the 5th and see what we can find. This year to my surprise when we arrived at sunrise we counted 19 people already detecting, and that was on one little section of beach....it looked like a meet-up event. We decided to jump into the mix and try to carve out our spot. As we were roaming around we would talk to the others and found most were there at midnight! But what stood out was over half were swinging Minelab Equinox 600's. I used to think we had a competitive advantage as my son and I were some of the first to get our Nox's early this year.....Well so much for that! It was nearly impossible to get in front of the group and detect fresh sand. Prior to the Nox I would say most of the detectors I saw were lower-end Whites and Garrett only the very serious were using the expensive Minelab CTX and Excalibur. But with the price point and quality of the 600 it is clearly becoming the detector of choice and more people can now buy into a very capable detector which also works in the wet. :(

So I look at the Nox as a good and bad thing for us, we have found more good treasure with them than our prior detectors ever did but the increased competition has started to impact that. In fact in just the past few trips to the beach we have already noticed less and less targets. Southern CA is a great place to live due to the climate and year-round detecting, but dealing with all the people and now the treasure hunting competition it is really frustrating. I can only imagine what our experience will be a year from now.

Is anyone else experiencing this?
 
Yes. I had been hunting with a CTX and targets were getting scarce I think because night detecting became popular as well as grid pattern detecting. I don’t do either I walk the beach for 4-5 hours. In the past I’d hit target patches. I haven’t hit one of those in over a year. I decided to try the EQ800 but targets for me have been few and far between. Just walked Balboa to Wedge and back yesterday - found a junk lapel pin, a coin from Thailand and another from New Zealand, and about $3 in change. No other detectorists seen. What I dug was 8” or less deep whereas with my CTX I’d usually hit really deep targets (12”-18”). I’ve given the EQ800 probably 60 hours and no gold or really much of anything of value. I’m going to switch back to my CTX for awhile as I like detecting with it way more. But since I’m not seeing detectors during day hunts I’m thinking this has become a pretty competitive sport with things getting cleaned up before I get there - plus we just haven’t had major storms to mix things up. Sand has moved around but I think in a way to take targets deeper or out to sea rather than provide abrupt exposure.
 
When the hoards have strip mined the shallow targets I slow down and hunt deep targets and small jewelry. Digging a bunch of holes behind these people really messes with their heads, more than one has stormed off the beach cussing their machine. :detecting:
 
I agree
Equinox is great for getting targets in iron and anything 8inch and under
Most people can be eliminated as competition by their swing or height of coil as well as speed walking
I’ve had my equinox in chest deep water now and runs pretty stable so that’s where I will use it most

CTX will be my go behind machine for the deep gold all these new users miss
I watched a guy almost running down the beach with coil swinging 8 to ten inches off ground
Was using Ctx
What a waste of such a good machine
So I think for the most part we still onlly have 5% of Hunters that will get the majority of good targets
Also with not many people carrying change these days most new hunters will not understand the dry spells waiting for gold that will surely come to those willing to put in the time without much to show in between
HH Ron
 
Man I never see more than one person or none on the beaches by me
 
For me I'm used to at least 10 looters or more and it does not bother me. Once you have learned your machine. And once you know how to set it up for the beach your on. And once you learn how to read your beach. Then for me it becomes coil control and luck. It is a game of inches in diameter and inches in depth. Not even ten looters can find it all. The problems I run into are titanium, stainless steel and tungsten carbide. Grrrrrr
 
The local club once came down to my beach and thought it was funny to hunt out in front of my beach condo. So I drove a few miles north to their beach and dug a platinum ring with a HUGE emerald and two square cut diamonds, KARMA!
 
Your statement we are finding more gold than we dis with the Xcal and CTX may be true for some...but most of us havent had the machine more than 4 months. The Nox has a lot of catching up to do because ive found a lot of gold with the other MLs. Ten hunters on the beach one besides me had a Nox.... I still got two golds. Most guys ive seen with a Nox here have just been the guys ive always competed with.... just new machine.
 
Targets are harder to find but in some ways this is good, as the newbies don't get the gold rings on the first or second time out they will go less and less. Like all other professionals they didn't get there over night and put a lot of time into their trade to become a pro. We that have been doing this for years are the real die hard detector hobbyist.
 
I went to a competition hunt fathers day weekend that had about 55 hunters, there where 10 people with Equinox's that's 18 percent :shrug: I helped any one who had questions ranging from my Equinox won't find a half on edge - wrong, to my ctx won't find a 6 inch deep half silver dollar, nice "custom" program- not :thumbdown: My favorite one was get a brand new Equinox turn it on for the first time and walk onto the hunt field, now that was a steep learning curve. Then there are the old hands that clean house, you will probably see all 4 examples on the beach Eric, just be in the last group!!
Laplander
 
Another thing you have to consider....... this is Summer. There are always more hunters during the warm months. Warm water...... vacation time..... recent drops with more people....... heck even more SHIFT hunters this time of the year..... morning noon and night. I dont believe anythings changed. The Nox isnt a gold vacuum..... you do enough walking around out there even a blind squirrel will find a nut (recent drop).
 
Nice post and I agree with you but I also think Ron and Charles have hit the nail on the head with their replies to you. I know you’ve heard the saying “gold is where you find it”, but location and if you’re one of the first to get there it plays a huge part on increasing your odds of finding the good stuff. In my opinion Minelab has made wet sand beach hunting so much easier by introducing a machine that’s light enough to swing all day and doesn’t cost much compared to other top of the line machines that work in the water and wet sand. You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think lots of the new Equinox users aren’t going to start hitting some of those shallow bangers and I’m talking about the users that swing the coil 4 or 5 inches off the sand. No one ever gets it all but there is going to be way less targets if your late to the party at a prime location. In my opinion, In the end it all comes down to technique and that is what separates the good hunters from the average hunters. I laughed when I read Charles post because he is so right. We all know the sweet spots at our beaches and the looters get there early. Thank god most of them move to fast and swing those coils too high. They seem to always leave the rest of us something but we have to work harder to find it. I’m far from perfect with my technique but feel that I can had my own with most of the better hunters. Even when your griding the good hunters are going miss targets. Let’s hope most of these new NOX machines stay up on the dry sand:detecting:

Hope to see you all out there HH
 
This topic comes up from time to time and the answer is always the same: most of the hunters I run into on the beaches are clueless how to sweep a coil over the sand. I have an Equinox 800 and I've noticed the increased number of folks swinging these machines at our local S. CA beaches. With coils 8" above the sand, swinging a short loop shaped like the letter "U." Detecting in the air most of the time. The same thing happened when the Explorers came out, and then the CTX. Same deal. Lots of the machines showed up, most hunters didn't know what they were doing, and those who did found some good stuff. If you notice in the replies to this post the name "RandyNorthdridgeca" that's my buddy Randy. He has had a phenomenal last month with his 800, hunting areas that have been supposedly pounded by night hunters prior to the sun coming up. Not to mention the dozen or so guys who are there at sun up. Take a look at the amount of gold Randy has found. He's good, his machine is good, and together their results are very good.


So just like having a fast car and not knowing how to drive it, the same can be said about detecting. If you know what you're doing you'll do just fine. These knuckleheads who are showing up in large numbers are doing us all a favor by removing a lot of surface trash and not much more.

Bill (S. CA)
 
Anyone can get lucky once in a while, being able to find gold consistently has almost nothing to do with what machine people are using. You can be an expert with an Equinox and still not find much gold. But if you are an expert at beach hunting you can find gold consistently with a 20 year old machine. An expert beach hunter armed with an Equinox that's probably someone to be feared.
 
I do believe this is a big piece, several video bloggers on Youtube post stuff every day and they are hunting and filming the beaches I hunt! A few of these guys have over a million hits so we know people are watching. One guy in particular I run into all the time he used to use a Excalibur but now swings a Nox. He posts videos of all his finds which usually includes jewelry and lots of coins. I have to imagine with all the young people using Youtube and other social media that it has had an impact.

The beach is a great place to hunt as during the summer millions show up every weekend so it is being replenished. Of course the low tides are the huckleberry but they don't last long and if you work it's even harder to be there at the right time. Usually that is when you see the plethora of hunters out and once the tide comes in they all move to the dry sand and the fire pits. I have several spots that I don't think get hit much based on what I find, in fact my son found a nice silver and gold ring there yesterday. So all is not lost but it does get frustrating at times.

Laplander is right there is a large percentage of people who simply do not have the skills down and do not set up there machine for best results, they also don't pattern the beach and they miss a lot. I can follow behind them and score quite easily. They are weekend hunters who you see once and not again. But there is a good dozen guys I see every time I am there and they know what they are doing and they are vacuums and leave nothing behind. Most if not all are swinging a Minelab product, several have switched from CTX to the Nox just due to weight.
 
Gold is where you find it........ gold is also where its been found before, we learn that too. Whats the other saying ....... 10% of the people find 90% of the gold. Those are the ones i say can find gold with a stick. I do agree the hype of targets in the low digits like chains got most people doing what ...... watching those digit to the point of exhaustion. I think with more out there now people are putting their heads down and just hunting with better results. Ive had mine about 3 months....... to early to say its a better machine...... ive just done well.
 
Jesus Bill, think you got carried away :twodetecting: When I have you and Frank out there I always have to try and step up my game. I’m playing in the sand the rest of the week except Saturday. Hope to see you out there on Sunday. (Should have taken my detector on the way to Ensenada today. Those beaches looked inviting).

May everyone’s pouch be filled with gold this summer! HH
 
earthlypotluck said:
Read the rules on hunting CT beaches and it might explain why. What a load of you know what. :thumbdown:



Man I never see more than one person or none on the beaches by me
I hunt private beaches near me no one hunts them..
 
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