I'm interested in hearing about any results from testing the coil and detector for buoyancy and drag in fresh water lakes. In other words, does the coil float and have to be held under the water with force or does it sink to the bottom? When the control box is out of the water, is there a lot of drag when swinging the coil in the water and does that change when the control box is under the water? These are questions that fresh water hunters really need to know and thus far I haven't seen any results. Not saying that there aren't any, just that I haven't seen any.
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Equinox coil buoyancy and drag in fresh water lakes??
- Thread starter pine3874
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Jason in Enid
Active member
pine3874 said:
right now, you know just as much as anyone else. I would expect it to be similar to the characteristics of the CTX coil, but thats a guess.
treasure_hunter
New member
Since none of Minelabs waterproof coils float I highly doubt this coil will either. Drag in the water will be minimal since it has a very small profile.
Jason in Enid
Active member
pine3874 said:
Ummm, thats not how it works. A coil is either negatively buoyant, neutrally buoyant, or positive (aka it floats). If the coil was a floater, there is no way you would ever have enough weight on the back of the pole to push that coil down to the bottom. You have to use your arm and physically work to keep it down during hunts. I've had coils like this. Modern detectors made for water hunting don't put out positive buoyant coils. Some aftermarket coils may be bouyant.
But like I said, the coil is almost identical to the that of CTX so it will most likely have exactly the same in-water characteristics. I have put a lot of water hours on my CTX, it does just fine.
dewcon4414
Well-known member
Pine..... i dont find that to be true about the CTX. Its well balanced but It gets top botany ....... which can affect coil control. Get out there on a day with lots of swells and its work. Thats one reason there is a hole in the handle. Drag wise........ its the 2X4 shaft not the coil giving us drag. I dont think the coils going to be an issue from what im told. I dont believe anyone right now can tell us what it will do with the whole machine in the water because there isnt anyone with waterproof phones that i know of unless Brandon has them. I really see this machine moving well in the water with the thin shaft and not a lot of weight on the other end.
Dew
Dew
"I'm guessing the Equinox will be slower to use with more drag than the CTX 11" coil.
It's got 8 'holes' for water to move through compared to the 6 holed areas of the CTX.
It'll be the same walking/working backwards.
The CTX is much smoother and filters water more easily working backwards!
(As always be aware of undulations in lakes, rivers and beaches)
It was an aspect of prototype testing I used place huge importance on when first getting them to trial"
It's got 8 'holes' for water to move through compared to the 6 holed areas of the CTX.
It'll be the same walking/working backwards.
The CTX is much smoother and filters water more easily working backwards!
(As always be aware of undulations in lakes, rivers and beaches)
It was an aspect of prototype testing I used place huge importance on when first getting them to trial"
Mr. Carolina
Member
Can't remember where, can't remember when, but there was a short fresh water video where they on purpose dropped the machine in the water and it sank like a rock. They did not however waste any time pulling it out though but was a waterproof demonstration of sorts. Knee to thigh deep water. Anybody else see the video. Well, I would say the stock 11" coil has the same characteristics of the CTX if they were off the machines and chunked in the water. On another note, with winter weather everywhere and people inside instead of out hunting, this forum is running rampant with every topic imaginable and it's all pretty much conjecture. Dear sweet Jesus, help Minelab put that machine out on the street.
Champ Ferguson
New member
\"Carolina\" said:
AMEN, Brother Carolina!
dewcon4414 said:
If what you say is true, that's scary. How could Minelab have a detector that is waterproof to 10 ft and no one have waterproof headphones to test it and report on the results? I really want to buy an Equinox and am just trying to get answers to questions that are important to me just like everyone else is. One of the reasons I got rid of my AT PRO was because when the control unit was out of the water, the drag on the coil and shaft was more than I wanted to deal with. Just hoping that it will be different with the Equinox.
shortcut1224
Member
I am not sure but if an AT Pro with just the coil and shaft of the coil created to much drag, I am really not sure it can be all that much less on the Equinox. Water creates a fair amount of drag on even a broom handle that is just a fact of hunting in water.
Have water hunted for years with many different detectors.
The drag through the water is pretty much the same on all of them. The smaller the coil...the less resistance/water surge issues. More holes in the coils in the water mean nothing....whereas as a solid coil will cause the coil to sheer in water. And concerning the coil wire...as long as you keep it tight to the shaft and not loose it will be the same as the CTX or any other unit. I currently use the CTX as my primary and a CZ-21 as my backup.
The drag through the water is pretty much the same on all of them. The smaller the coil...the less resistance/water surge issues. More holes in the coils in the water mean nothing....whereas as a solid coil will cause the coil to sheer in water. And concerning the coil wire...as long as you keep it tight to the shaft and not loose it will be the same as the CTX or any other unit. I currently use the CTX as my primary and a CZ-21 as my backup.