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E-trac to Explorer?

HaroldILL.

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I have seen many post's about people going from the Explorer to E-trac. But I was wondering if any on this forum started with the E-trac and went to the Explorer and like it better and why? I have had an since the first month they came out. I had an explorer later on, never really used it. I am just wondering what I am missing? Thanks.
 
I have owned an E-trac since one month after they came out is want I meant to say above. Thanks.
 
Some prefer one and some prefer the other, having used both.

Got two friends (actually 3 now) that hunt with an Etrac. Got two other guys I hunt with who had a Etrac and went back to the SE. So that shows you that some prefer one and some prefer the other. The Etrac makes things a bit "easier" in certain ways, like a nice luxury sports car, and in certain ways I guess you could say the Explorer is like a finicky sports car. Like comparing a Cadillac sports care to a Mustang GT. Not as easy to drive (some say) at first, but once you master it it will do some amazing things. That mastering is half the fun to some people, and so when they discover it's unique "quirks" they feel they've really built a relationship with the machine, and once that's done, to use the sports car analogy, you can out drive anybody on the road on any given day.

Some guys prefer the Explorer's VDI setup. Some say the audio on deep silver is better too. As for the Etrac, some say it has a bit more VDI on a coin at depth. So, depending on which you favor (better audio at depth on the Explorer or a tad better *conductivity* VDI at depth on a coin), you'll favor one or the other. I've owned 3 Explorer IIs and have re-searched extensively/set-up the Etrac for a few friends with the settings most of the heavy hitters seem to agree on, along with the famous Andy Sabisch excellent minimal iron discrimination pattern. Used the Etrac here and there. Prefer the Explorer myself due to the above reasons. Also, I don't care for the 12th line compression of ferrous on the Etrac myself. I seem to get much more fine detail on what a target might be in smart find with the cross hairs by what they are doing on the Explorer. Just my opinion. Both are still Minelabs and so of course great machines.

And don't think you have to get an SE. There are fans of every model of Explorer who have used them all and yet settle on one model or another for various "quirks" they like better for them. Same deal with the SE, some prefer it over the other prior models. It's all in how well you get to know the particular model and "mesh" with it IMO. Just like people you meet, some become good friends for little reasons while others you don't care for for those same little reasons. It's all in how well you get along with your machine and "connect" with it. Once that's done and you gain experience from that connection, that's when a machine goes beyond it's abilities in a sense and sets you apart from others, regardless of what machine they own.
 
Thanks for the reply and great read. I know what you mean as I love the E-trac,But sometimes it seems to be like a car in automatic which is nice. There are times though you prefer a 4 speed to use another car like comparison. Besides everybody and there brother in my area has an E-trac. Also I have heard for years about the silver warble on the Explorer models being a little sweeter than the E-trac and I am a big tone guy more so than numbers. And lastly they say the E-trac is better balanced even though heavier? I was wondering if there really is that much of a difference as I can swing an E-trac fairly easy with the pro and x-8 coil. I tried a CTX 3030 and even though it is balanced well the weight was to much for my arm as I guess every arm is different.
 
Glad you get my analogy, because yours was great too. :thumbup: The SE is either a half pound or a pound lighter than the Etrac if memory serves. Somewhere in that range. Can't remember off hand, but I'm pretty sure it's at least a half pound lighter. Tons of Explorers out there. Don't be fooled by the lack of message traffic. All the forums for all brands of machines across the net are slow right now due to the heat. Happens every year. Nobody hunting much.

Besides, many Explorer guys out there have long ago read this forum and found what they needed to know, or are even on here at this very moment but don't post a question as they use the search function to find what they needed to know. When a machine is new the questions fly as people try to figure it out, but as life rolls on those kinds of questions start to slow down with any machine. They never go away, because some people just won't use the search function, but they do slow down a bit once the initial mystery of the machine has been nailed down and addressed through numerous posts.

You can't beat the great used price you can get on an Explorer these days. Adding #4 to my line up sooner or later here. I was never a fan of the 10" coils on the Explorer, and I'm so impressed with the depth and separation of the 12x10 that I'll be sticking one of those on my next Explorer too. It'll be added to my line up to sit beside my other machines. That way when the mood strikes for one or the other I grab this or that. Some days I am in the mood for staring at and watching a computer screen off and on while hunting. Something "mesmerizing" about that that can in a way give peace of mind to me in it's self, or for days I'm in the mood to fine tweak various computer settings just to play a bit with that. For instance, the learn accept/reject function can be deadly in the right situation looking for certain targets or at least to ignore certain others loaded at a site. The noise cancel function is great for spots where EMI is a big issue. Other days I want knobs and toggle switches with simple controls to keep my head clear on days I don't want to fuss or think. Not that the Explorer makes you do that. Jjust saying some days I just want simplicity in it's purest form and "analog" style controls I can "feel", yet still have the same raw depth, and so I have another Minelab for those days. That's what I'm saying about the Explorer, people worry it's getting long in the tooth. You've got to remember that Minelabs have "good genes". They don't age fast at all in terms of the competition passing them by while other makes, born years later, seem to live and die in no time. :thumbup:
 
Id find it hard to believe anyone who STARTED OUT on the ET would switch to the Explorer. Its easier out of the box without the learning curve and most feel they have top of the line. However..... those that started out on the Explorer.... some of them have sold the ET and bought another Explorer. Others just like having the newest one out. Ive used the ET, but never felt it was a good fit for how, where, and what i was looking for.

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