DON'T THINK THE DELEON IS FOR ME- HELP!

[fematrailer]

I have a Deleon and I think that the target i.d. is very confusing for me. If I hit a target that is a 95 and it never moves from 95 it's usually a small can or screw cap. penny's can register from zinc to zinc iron or zinc tab. I want to really learn this detector but it kind of throws me off at times. Just when I think that I have a diggable target, it turns out to be junk. I am thinking about going with a Fisher CZ-3d but it may not be much better. Any hints? I have a Cibola but I dig so much junk and the Deleon does help with not digging so many pull tabs. Let me know what y'all think.
Rick

 

[space_weaseal]

I have a DeLeon and if it is a locked in 95 and a good strong bar then i am digging a coin. I put a 5.75 coil on it and it runs alot smoother than with the stock coil.

 

[jabbo]

An aluminum screwcap or part of a beverage can will be way up there in the coin range, is normal. The beverage can beep would be big, raise the coil 6", if you still hear it then its probably a can.

 

[ohp800max]

I would give yourself a little more time to learn the DeLeon. The D definitely runs smoother with the 5.75 for me and I also use a 7 concentric some also. I certainly don't think the D is the greatest TID ever made, but I have noticed the graph to be pretty accurate when it locks on and I can "usually" tell the difference between a coin, cap, etc. I've also noticed there's not much difference in depth when running the sens at 7 or so rather than maxed out. It also runs much less erratic at around 7 or so. Give the D some more time and it won't let you down! Just have to get to know it!

ohp800max

 

[BarberBill]

I've been quite pleased with mine. I have found that a sensitivity setting around 7 seems to give plenty of depth.and nearly always a 95 with solid bar is a coin. However, as mentioned above. aluminum, especially large aluminum like a can will give a 95 reading as well. My MXT reads aluminum cans as large silver coins also so I'm thinking that's normal. You might do well to practice with your Cibola and learn to thumb the disc to where a nickel cracks and drops out, then where most tabs drop out, zinc pennies etc. and practice, practice practice especially listening. I started with a beep and dig machine and by the time I had picked up a couple of machines with TID I was in the habit of listening closely for a solid coin tone, then checking the TID. I got an indeterminate ID and a different tone with the DeLeon one time, passed on it, then thought about it and went back and retrieved the target. Turned out to be a small scotty dog off a charm bracelet. With the help of a magnifier I discovered it was marked .925 silver. My main point is that what prompted be to go back was the sound, not the ID. In this particular case, the sound didn't quite match a good signal, nor the typical trash signal so the final analysis was to dig. If you are bound to dig NO tabs or similar junk, don't expect to find much, if any gold jewelry as you'll be discriminating that out as well.
BB

 

[Furious T]

I've been using the DeLeon for over 6 years, and have a couple of suggestions for you to try:

Lower your sensitivity a bit. I rarely have mine aboe 2 or 3 in parks and such places, and still get plenty of depth;
Listen to the audio signal as well as reading the screen. Heaps of information comes through with the audio signal once you start listening to it. Do have the signal too loud or you miss the subleties;
Dont be afraid to switch into all metal to "size" a target. Also when sizing, listen to the audio and match that signal with the depth showing on the video screen.

Try these suggestions, and see if you like the DeLeon any better. A smaller coil will certainly help in really trashy areas.

 

[digitaltim]

I liked the CZs, because they're strong and consistent Target ID machines. I'd have to hip mount mine though, they're heavy.

I wish I could keep a garage full if different brand detectors, but I've settled with Tesoros. It's a happy union ;-).

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Unfortunately meters are just guides and many items can mimic coins and gold rings. CZ3D may go deeper and is much heavier and will do the same thing..I advise you to do a lot of digging and lots of field time is the answer( not a different unit)....Your unit is working fine nut behind the wheel needs some adjusting and learning and certainly no belittling you as metal detecting is a learning process which takes time and we all have experienced the same when we started..Hang in there my friend as with time all will fall into place..Forum has many learned detectorists so keep on reading and asking questions....

 

[dmckee17]

I have to chime in also, I think probably everyone who first steps into an ID machine has ideas as what to expect (I did). They are just another clue in helping you decide to dig or not, I've got a Cortes and it does the same things you describe (it is normal).

What I've learned is to mostly be a listener to the beeps, blips, crackles, overloads,etc and use the ID as just another piece of info if the sound gets my attention. I set my disc just above iron, sensitivity max and dig everything that beeps clean and repeatable. I end up with not only clad and silver coins but nickles and gold, along with pulltabs, screwcaps, etc. Give it time and learn to listen to it.

 

[Furious T]

Just a correction to my earlier post.....Dont have the audio signal too loud. Make sure, when you are identifying a target that the little posts on the screen correspond with the numbers..if they dont, then it is probably junk (but not always) e.g. if you get a reading of 95, and the post on the left hand end of the screen is the highest, for me that means rusted iron. Good luck. Stick with it, it's a beaut machine.