But seriously , most of these targets are deep ones , not just the big stuff but the small pieces of aluminum, talking maybe an inch in diameter are down 8 inch's in the ground . I dug the brass water valve with the copper tubing at a depth past the length of of my propointer (9 inch's). Its like Uncle Willy said " theres going to be some fantastic finds down the road" But if I dont find any silver or gold it just cant be there, and when spring comes and all these great finds start flooding in the forum and I still havnt found any good stuff, then(I will consider myself jinxed.)