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Does The MXT E Series Have Multi-Tone?
- Thread starter Hotdawg
- Start date
let me answer to the specific model, then elaborate.
Other than those examples, metal detectors might provide a variety of audio Tone ID choices. The MXT [size=small](and MXT 300 which is simply an MXT with the 12" coil)[/size] have only a single-tone audio in the Coin & Jewelry Discriminate mode.
If you select the Relic Discriminate mode, then you do have the option of a two-tone audio ID, of desired and based upon your settings. This set-up will let you adjust to hear a lower-tone for ferrous targets and a higher-pitched tone for non-ferrous targets. I like to use the Two-Tone Relic function a lot when I am searching many of the sites I like to hunt with nails and other small, similar-type ferrous junk.
In the MXT 'family' are three other models that use the basic MXT circuitry design, to include the M6, which came next, then the MXT Pro [size=small](now called the MXT All Pro)[/size], and the newly released MX5. All of these models have some form of multi-tone audio selection. The M6 is a simplified MXT using the same housing but internally set for silent-search and they eliminated the threshold control and the Prospecting and Relic search modes. The M6 was designed mainly for Coin Hunters, many of whom want some audio TID, so they incorporated a 7-tone Tone ID at the flip of the trigger toggle. You have either a single-tone or a 7-tone.
The MXT Pro came next, and I often run into situations where someone has an MXT Pro, for example, or they are asking about one, but forget to add the 'Pro' so I consider they are speaking of the plan-Jane basic MXT. So, if you're asking about the MXT Pro or MXT All-Pro [size=small](same detector just an 'All' added to the label)[/size], then 'Yes,' it has Tone ID. In designing this upgraded MXT model, they kept the Relic mode's Two-Tone feature, and they added the 7-Tone M6-like Tone ID to the Coin & Jewelry mode. That means you can pick a single-tone or a 7-Tone function in C&J.
This month White's introduced the new MX5, based on the MXT circuitry, and I added one to my personal detector arsenal because I like the physical package, and the MXT performance, plus, the have either a 1-Tone, 2-Tone [size=small](ferrous/non-ferrous)[/size] or an 8-Tone choice for Tone ID.
So, that's the update, but if you're referring to just the original MXT and not the MXT Pro, then it only has 1-Tone in C&J and 1 or 2-Tone possible in Relic mode.
Monte
There are many examples of 'multi-tones,' with my favorite being the XLT or VX3 using their full-range, VDI assigned, 191 different Tone ID responses. To me, that is THE multi-tone that tops the industry. Naturally it all depends upon what an individual likes, and most of the time, even with the XLT's I've had, or the VX3 I use now, I only use Tone ID occasionally, preferring the single-tone audio most of the time.Hotdawg said:
Other than those examples, metal detectors might provide a variety of audio Tone ID choices. The MXT [size=small](and MXT 300 which is simply an MXT with the 12" coil)[/size] have only a single-tone audio in the Coin & Jewelry Discriminate mode.
If you select the Relic Discriminate mode, then you do have the option of a two-tone audio ID, of desired and based upon your settings. This set-up will let you adjust to hear a lower-tone for ferrous targets and a higher-pitched tone for non-ferrous targets. I like to use the Two-Tone Relic function a lot when I am searching many of the sites I like to hunt with nails and other small, similar-type ferrous junk.
In the MXT 'family' are three other models that use the basic MXT circuitry design, to include the M6, which came next, then the MXT Pro [size=small](now called the MXT All Pro)[/size], and the newly released MX5. All of these models have some form of multi-tone audio selection. The M6 is a simplified MXT using the same housing but internally set for silent-search and they eliminated the threshold control and the Prospecting and Relic search modes. The M6 was designed mainly for Coin Hunters, many of whom want some audio TID, so they incorporated a 7-tone Tone ID at the flip of the trigger toggle. You have either a single-tone or a 7-tone.
The MXT Pro came next, and I often run into situations where someone has an MXT Pro, for example, or they are asking about one, but forget to add the 'Pro' so I consider they are speaking of the plan-Jane basic MXT. So, if you're asking about the MXT Pro or MXT All-Pro [size=small](same detector just an 'All' added to the label)[/size], then 'Yes,' it has Tone ID. In designing this upgraded MXT model, they kept the Relic mode's Two-Tone feature, and they added the 7-Tone M6-like Tone ID to the Coin & Jewelry mode. That means you can pick a single-tone or a 7-Tone function in C&J.
This month White's introduced the new MX5, based on the MXT circuitry, and I added one to my personal detector arsenal because I like the physical package, and the MXT performance, plus, the have either a 1-Tone, 2-Tone [size=small](ferrous/non-ferrous)[/size] or an 8-Tone choice for Tone ID.
So, that's the update, but if you're referring to just the original MXT and not the MXT Pro, then it only has 1-Tone in C&J and 1 or 2-Tone possible in Relic mode.
Monte
HaroldILL.
Active member
Don't forget the SST which also has 7 tone I.D. and is like an M6 on steroids!
I guess you're right that I did forget to include the SST, but, that is an odd-ball in my opinion. While it is in the MXT 'family' of circuitry, and yes, it does have the 7-Tone ID like the M6, but that's because the SST really IS a simpled-out M6 that was made just for Jimmy's territory and his dealers.Harold said:
I kind of get a kick out of it because it is designed as a Discriminate mode search detector, and while I have used the M6 and several other good models in the motion-based Discriminate mode to hunt for gold nuggets through the yeas, we always read and hear about the 'gold only' models using a Threshold-based Discriminate mode.
Well, the M6 has worked for me just like the MXT and MXT Pro have in their Discriminate modes, for some nugget detection. Now we have an M6 that lacks some adjustments it's supposed to be a super hit unit. Well, I think it is an error to suggest that the SST is an M6 on steroids. It isn't, and it isn't readily available to most White's Dealers, an I really don't think most would want it, anyway. Actually, even today as I head out to detect in a few minutes, I KNOWI am better equipped than the SST toting guy or gal.
I was better equipped with my MXT All-Pro in the rig ad ready-to-go as it has more features and functions than the SST. Now, some might say it costs a lot more and that's correct. But I could have my M6 along, and it is a more-featured SST, but he SST was advertised to retail for $599.95 instead of $699.95. Okay, a savings of $100 for a few less features than the M6. But today I also keep my new MX5 company on the back seat and it also retail for $599.95, but ........
It offers a lot more than the SST and for the same price. My MX5 took the place of my M6, and another mode or two, to accompany my MXT Pro and modified IDX Pro for daily-duty in my travels. So, I guess I just had an oversight moment when I ignored mention of the abbreviated M6 in the limited-availability SST model.
Thanks for pointing that out to me as I know I do forget things from time to time. Age, I guess, is what I an blame it on.
Monte
Hi Monte,
I know the M6 is in the MXT family as well as the SST MX5. But one difference between the M6 and MXT not normally mentioned is the M6 will not drive the super Mxt coil or it is advertised not to!
That indicates that when they dumbed down the MXT originally for the M6 they took some gain off the top end. The SST has the gain of the MXT supposedly. I have only done brief tests between the two at the dealer but the SST hit much harder on my test nugget!. That being said I recently purchased a 8x6 SEF coil for the SST and at 7 on the gain it operates very nice. After that the SST starts over driving that coil. I loose target Id accuracy but sensitivity and depth are like hitting a boost mode. Ive been hitting earrings this way hunting hot and backing off gain to check Vdi when needed for the little scrub signals the earrings make. Point is it seems to have plenty of gain like the MXT! Does the Mxt overdrive this coil as well?? The M6? and at what point on the gain?
With all due respect to your knowledge and expertise have you actually had a SST in your hands yet? Maybe the reports of it being hotter have something to them maybe not, you would be the perfect person to take care of this "urban Myth?"
I'm not trying to advocate the SST and was almost sad I bought it when I heard of the MX5 but I got over that real quick when I found out the MX5 did not have track lock.
As far a threshold based nugget hunting machines go I agree but then I can put the SSt next to the G2 and it does just fine put them both in bad ground or EMI and the SST trumps the G2 no doubts in my mind.
HH
Jim
I know the M6 is in the MXT family as well as the SST MX5. But one difference between the M6 and MXT not normally mentioned is the M6 will not drive the super Mxt coil or it is advertised not to!
That indicates that when they dumbed down the MXT originally for the M6 they took some gain off the top end. The SST has the gain of the MXT supposedly. I have only done brief tests between the two at the dealer but the SST hit much harder on my test nugget!. That being said I recently purchased a 8x6 SEF coil for the SST and at 7 on the gain it operates very nice. After that the SST starts over driving that coil. I loose target Id accuracy but sensitivity and depth are like hitting a boost mode. Ive been hitting earrings this way hunting hot and backing off gain to check Vdi when needed for the little scrub signals the earrings make. Point is it seems to have plenty of gain like the MXT! Does the Mxt overdrive this coil as well?? The M6? and at what point on the gain?
With all due respect to your knowledge and expertise have you actually had a SST in your hands yet? Maybe the reports of it being hotter have something to them maybe not, you would be the perfect person to take care of this "urban Myth?"
I'm not trying to advocate the SST and was almost sad I bought it when I heard of the MX5 but I got over that real quick when I found out the MX5 did not have track lock.
As far a threshold based nugget hunting machines go I agree but then I can put the SSt next to the G2 and it does just fine put them both in bad ground or EMI and the SST trumps the G2 no doubts in my mind.
HH
Jim
HaroldILL.
Active member
Hey Monte, I don't see the XL-PRO in your line-up of detectors? Say it ain't so and you just forgot to add it on?
HaroldILL.
Active member
At least there is some action on the forum now.
HaroldILL.
Active member
Hey Tom,didn't you have a cartoon back in the 60's?
Nickname given to me by co-workers because of my car.Harold said:Hey Tom,didn't you have a cartoon back in the 60's?
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HaroldILL.
Active member
Is that the real deal or a kit car? Nice car none the less.
