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Does it really matter what mode ? Ace 250 Really !!?

andrew9091

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Im beginning to be convinced it doesnt really matter what mode you are in with the ace....I can have it in coin mode or jewlery mode and its still going to go crazy for an aluminum can or pull tab. The best option I found was coin mode eliminating everything except the silver.....Doing this pretty much wiped out 90% of the trash I was digging up. Are all detectors pretty much the same ? I read once where 60 to 70 percent of everything you did is trash ??? I do think the ace is an amazing coin detector so coin mode may be the best option. The thing was I took my gold ring off on coin mode, after eliminating the gold options and it still beeped....Im thinking coin mode and leaving nothing but silver may be the best mode if you are not wanting to dig up lots of trash. Im not convinced you will not be able to find gold in this mode.
Happy Hunting all !
-Andrew
 
Unfortunately gold rings come in from low foil to high penny and the problem exists with every detector as much junk mimics gold rings...Actually your hot spot is foil right below the nickle segment where approx. 40 percent of rings lost come in( thin womans gold rings some with nice stones) I personally don't like digging pennies so would accept dime up in the high coins and the nickle segment and one above and one below..This should cut down the junk you dig give you more nickles, dimes and above and some pennies that sneak in along with about 50 percent of the gold rings lost. Yes it really matters if you ever want to dig a gold ring...Even so be prepared to dig but your percentage of junk will be much less.....
 
:usaflag:Lately I have been notching out everything below a dime. I'm so sick of trash and pull-tabs that I don't give a sh!t about "gold" anything. If I want a gold ring I'll go and buy one.
 
you have several options. You can simply reject the particular 'range' or 'segment' that most trash at a site falls in, or you can just glance at your display and know where the TID is and ignore recovering undesired junk. That's part of what Target ID is for.

Then, too, if you are bothered by an abundance of junk, simply change locations to one that is less trashy! If you just do NOT want to find a US 5
 
You re going to have this issue with all metal detectors. Dan-Pa is correct in his response to you. I have an MXT, an excellent
machine (and yes better than the Ace 250) and it too bounces around like crazy. All any metal detector can do is give you it's
best guess as to what the target really is, so don't spend your hard earned money on a super expensive machine thinking it's going
to rid you of digging junk. Not going to happen. Right now on this site you can go to the directory and click on Whites new V3 forum,
a super brand new metal detector that has grafts and bars and all this fancy computer stuff and while their owners swear by the V3
they still dig junk targets (albeit not as much).
Katz
 
Well, I walked that same road. My conclusion was that I just ran wide open (no disc), listened to the tone and watched where it fell on the meter. If you're digging a tot lot, you WILL clean it out eventually. I've found small thin rings though, and like mentioned, they show to be in the foil range. Also earring backs can give different results. So just know that if you want to find the good stuff you just HAVE to dig some trash! Frustrating yes but remember that any detector is reading the conductivity of a target with many factors to change how it sees that target. Is it a thick, heavy gold ring? No problem! Is it a thin wispy ring..it's going to read different! Then you add depth and soil and even adjacent targets and you might just miss it altogether. Now this brings up a good point that people will tell you over and over--after you find your target scan the area again. This is necessary because of a phenomenon known as 'masking'. Go look up Dankowski's article 'Beneath The Mask' for a better understanding.

Sometimes you can use your brain to discriminate before you even make your first swing. Mainly this would be like looking over a park to see where the highest concentration of activity is, then just hitting those spots. You'll still dig a ton of trash but you'll be in the high potential areas for rings and coins. Is there a place where a footpath has a trip hazard? Check there. People fall and the good stuff sometimes doesn't get back up with them!

Back to the detector, yes, all detectors can be confusing as to what you're really seeing when your quest is for gold. Those targets are just too similar to aluminum and foil. Now on COINS, both my ACEs could be trusted that when it said quarter, it was a quarter! Pennies too, and nickels are sometimes iffy but pretty reliable too.

I hope I gave you some information you may not have had before! This is a fun hobby but can be frustrating when starting out! All those folks that have found so much bling and coins with whatever detector have put in lots of time to do that. You'll certainly have some lucky finds along the way, but the more you use your machine, the more you'll understand what it's telling you and that will help you to decide when you want to dig and when you want to walk.

Try it with no disc and dig everything for awhile. You're gonna get tired and dirty but you'll notice after that how much easier it is to understand what the ACE is telling you!
 
:usaflag:Ok...everything to the left of the old lipstick tube was found with the 5 cent notch "on".....everything to the right with it "off". I found these yesterday. And I'd love for someone to find one post where a person dug-up an actual gold coin...it's a pipe dream for 99.9% of us.
 
Great and informative post. Thanks for recommending the Ace with the sniper coil. Love the combo. I haven't found any other combo that will get CLOSER to the playground equipment. As far as this post goes, usually the sensitivity's above 3-4 bars in sites like this and I had good luck with just 3 bars until I got in a better site. Of course, the sniper coil reacts a lot better.
 
I'll hunt that way sometimes. Especially toward the end of a crappy hunt. Or when I have just 20 minutes to hunt like at lunch. It's called the "Ultra cherry picking mode"
 
[size=large][/size]You know I have my doubts about these guys that run out digging before dinner and find two or three rings. I think they must be MD in
a jewelers basement some ware.:nopity:
 
You have to cut out the nickle range plus or minus to kill the tabs..
Which is pretty risky as far as missing nickles, and even some rings, etc.
But it will work if you only want upper range coins.
Naturally, straight coin or jewelry mode will both hit on tabs as the
midrange is open on both. Or I think anyway.. I forgot.. I hardly use
either one..
I actually run wide open most of the time. I like to hear everything that
is in the ground. And I take my chances on the tabs. I dig a lot of them.
But I sleep better knowing I didn't leave something behind. And each tab I
dig up is one less to stumble across again in the future. :/
I pretty much dig everything unless I know for sure it's some kind of trash,
like say being in a bed of rusty nails. If I get a jumpy ID, you can almost
take it to the bank it's not a coin. Coins don't jump around much.
Some people learn how to tell tabs by the sound. IE: they sound slightly
different than a nickle in many cases, especially when pinpointing with
the non motion mode.
 
[size=large]I'd say ya need to start with your mind. why you mding? If ya read enough of these post ya have'ta see everyone digs junk. re-set your head. it's a hobby and junk is part of it. Learn your machine. Most of my first three months was on the ace 250. the more i read and watched you-tube vids the more i learned what quirks to look for and my coins went up and my junk went down. Did the same with my whites xlt. I even learned how to pin-point with the stock coil better. don't really need a pin-pointer withe the ace line. most of the other machines can't say that. You don't give up. It's a great hobby and you will enjoy it. And you do own a great machine. You will learn to appreciate what garrett has put into this machine. I'm sure of it. And i'm no dealer. Just hooked on the hobby.

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