Do I still have a problem with my 1270???

[WV62]

I sent my 1270 back to FT for repairs a few months back, detector worked good when I got it back and still does.

Yesterday I had a couple of hours to kill so I thought I would do a little curbing, so I put on my little 3 3/4" coil that I got off of ebay (it had been well used). I fired up the 1270 and it went nuts, a lot like it was doing when I sent it back for repair. Then I thought maybe I just got burnt on the coil, so I got out my little 5", 8" and the 5x10 and it ran just fine with all of them.

Before I put it in the trash I thought one more test, I put it on my 1266x and it ran just fine. Then I put it back on the 1270 and it went nuts again.

Has anybody out there had success running the 3 3/4" coil on the 1270 or is it just my machine

Ron in WV

 

[MarkCZ]

Maybe??? the frequence is off enough between the 1266 and the 1270 that that small of a coil irritates the 1270 (makes it to sensitive),
or maybe the power or size of the field of detection with the 1270 just can't work with that small of a coil?

I'm doubting that there is something wrong with the 1270 seeing how all the coil larger than the 3-3/4" seem to work okay.

Mark

 

[shooter]

I have to agree with Mark, I'd give Felix a call and ask for Daniel he's the 1270 tech, it doesn't make sense. they all should be the same and it seems that know one else has any input on the problem either.

 

[WV62]

Looks like that is my only option, I was hoping somebody out there had or had access to a 3 3/4" coil and a 1270.

Thanks Shooter I will give FT a call and see what they have to say.

Ron in WV

 

[BJ in Okla.]

Ron,
the 1270x is like 8 khz
the 1266x is 4.8 khz.
I have read that all 1200 coils would interchange, not true.
I had a friend that bought a 5" coil from a guy that used it on a 1236x,, when my friend put it on a 1225, it went nuts.
I bought a 5" coil and tried it on my 1266xb and it work fine, sent it to my friend and it worked fine on his 1225.
Some one else ran into this problem several yrs ago, trying to use 1200 coils on a 1270...
If you could do a search, you might find the post.
Hope this helps.
BJ

 

[MarkCZ]

Ron,
the 1270x is like 8 khz
the 1266x is 4.8 khz.
I have read that all 1200 coils would interchange, not true.
I had a friend that bought a 5" coil from a guy that used it on a 1236x,, when my friend put it on a 1225, it went nuts.
I bought a 5" coil and tried it on my 1266xb and it work fine, sent it to my friend and it worked fine on his 1225.
Some one else ran into this problem several yrs ago, trying to use 1200 coils on a 1270...
If you could do a search, you might find the post.
Hope this helps.
BJ

They're is two models of the 1200's that even have a different type of connector! I think they were the 1220 and the 1260.

Mark

 

[BJ in Okla.]

Mark,
I do remember the 1260x uses a connector of its own, and the 1260 coils will only work on the 1260,,also think its a 4 pin and the the 1265,1266,1270 are 5 pin,,I could be wrong on this, but have always heard that the 60 and 65 will not interchange.
I could make a couple of phone calls later and be sure, I know a couple of guys that use the 1260 and the other uses the 1265...
Back when I had a 1266xb, I tried my coils on the 1265x and they worked fine....
I think his problem is, his 1270x needs coils made for the 1270....
This would be a good question for Dave J.
Hope this helps.
BJ

 

[MarkCZ]

Mark,
I do remember the 1260x uses a connector of its own, and the 1260 coils will only work on the 1260,,also think its a 4 pin and the the 1265,1266,1270 are 5 pin,,I could be wrong on this, but have always heard that the 60 and 65 will not interchange.
I could make a couple of phone calls later and be sure, I know a couple of guys that use the 1260 and the other uses the 1265...
Back when I had a 1266xb, I tried my coils on the 1265x and they worked fine....
I think his problem is, his 1270x needs coils made for the 1270....
This would be a good question for Dave J.
Hope this helps.
BJ

WV60 has both the 1266 and the 1270 and all the coils interchange with both detectors, but the little 3-3/4" one. Or that's what I'm understanding him to say?

The information I got about the 1220 and the1260 being different came from Keith Wills at East Texas Detectors, I know he stated "two models" and from my memory I'm thinking that they were the 1220 and the1260. All the other 1200's are supposed to use the same coils, or so it seemed, but in the case of WV62 for some reason the little 3-3/4" doesn't work on the 1270?

Mark

 

[BJ in Okla.]

WV60 has both the 1266 and the 1270 and all the coils interchange with both detectors, but the little 3-3/4" one. Or that's what I'm understanding him to say?

The information I got about the 1220 and the1260 being different came from Keith Wills at East Texas Detectors, I know he stated "two models" and from my memory I'm thinking that they were the 1220 and the1260. All the other 1200's are supposed to use the same coils, or so it seemed, but in the case of WV62 for some reason the little 3-3/4" doesn't work on the 1270?

Mark
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Mark,, my friend that has the 1265x and he has 2 of them,,, one has the Small 3 3/4 coil on it and the other 1265x has the 8" or 8.5" stock coil, flat bottom..
His Dad has the 1260x and only uses the stock coil, he has the small coil 3 3/4" coil for it.

When I had my 1266xb, I had the 8",5" and a 3 3/4" coil that all worked on my unit.
This is still a good question for Dave J.
HH...BJ

 

[MarkCZ]

WV60 has both the 1266 and the 1270 and all the coils interchange with both detectors, but the little 3-3/4" one. Or that's what I'm understanding him to say?

The information I got about the 1220 and the1260 being different came from Keith Wills at East Texas Detectors, I know he stated "two models" and from my memory I'm thinking that they were the 1220 and the1260. All the other 1200's are supposed to use the same coils, or so it seemed, but in the case of WV62 for some reason the little 3-3/4" doesn't work on the 1270?

Mark
......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Mark,, my friend that has the 1265x and he has 2 of them,,, one has the Small 3 3/4 coil on it and the other 1265x has the 8" or 8.5" stock coil, flat bottom..
His Dad has the 1260x and only uses the stock coil, he has the small coil 3 3/4" coil for it.

When I had my 1266xb, I had the 8",5" and a 3 3/4" coil that all worked on my unit.
This is still a good question for Dave J.
HH...BJ

They are two versions of the 3-3/4" coils. WV62 had one that he got off from ebay that had the wrong style of connector on it. Well the short of that was it was the right connector for the 1220 and the 1260, or to say the coil was for the 1200's but only two models and not all of the 1200's in general. He then sold the coil and went looking for the correct 3-3/4" coil for the other 1200 series.

Mark

 

[MarkCZ]

My memory could be wrong about the two odd models, but they are two models of the 1200's that have or use a different connector (male pins instead of female pins)
And I'm thinking??? the two odd ball was the 1220 & 1260???

Mark

 

[BJ in Okla.]

Mark,
I am with you, there are some different 1200 coils out there, for sure....

The 1265x and 1266xb and x were good units....
My friends that use the 1260 and the 1265 are still making good finds.
HH...BJ

 

[WV62]

Well guys I have had all my coils on both my 1266x and the 1270, even the stock 8" coils have been changed because one has a long cable and the other a short. They all run good on both machines except the little 3 3/4" on the 1270.

The 1220 and the 1260 are the 2 1200 machines that have the different male pin connector on the coil wire. I am thinking all the rest have a female pin connector. You would think they would change the connector so that you couldn't plug it into the detector, maybe it wasn't worth it for the one little OLD coil.

Ron in WV

 

[WV62]

This is how I got the wrong coil the first time, this one just came up on ebay and it is for a the 1220 or the 1260. The guy doesn't say what it fits so he has his tracks covered.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Nice-4-in-Fisher-Coil-Scuff-gaurd-METAL-DETECTOR-/260808264809?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb9624c69

 

[shooter]

All 1265X coils will work on the 1270, I have all of the coils for the 1265X and the all work with the exception of pinpointing with the 10.5 spider I bought before the 1270 came out. I was the one who post the problem with Fishers advertising that they all 1200 series coil are interchangeable, it was a long drawn out thing with them and they never did anything about it and Felix agreed with me and told them to replace the coil but Mike Scott said they wouldn't. it was the Manufac. age of the coils 4 wires VS 5 wires, works great just no P/P on the 1270. I'll try to find the correspondence. But the all work.

 

[shooter]

On the money mark...............................

 

[WV62]

All 1265X coils will work on the 1270, I have all of the coils for the 1265X and the all work with the exception of pinpointing with the 10.5 spider I bought before the 1270 came out. I was the one who post the problem with Fishers advertising that they all 1200 series coil are interchangeable, it was a long drawn out thing with them and they never did anything about it and Felix agreed with me and told them to replace the coil but Mike Scott said they wouldn't. it was the Manufac. age of the coils 4 wires VS 5 wires, works great just no P/P on the 1270. I'll try to find the correspondence. But the all work.

Shooter,
I think what you say here may be the answer my question, I only have a coil problem, not a 1270 problem. I got into that 4 wire and 5 wire deal (but they all have 5 female pin connectors) with that first 3 3/4" coil I bought, I had to replace the connector. Maybe I am jumping the gun a bit, but it sounds like most of the 1200 sires coils will fit and work on the 1266x's / 1265x's but when it comes to the 1270 several may have a problem like going nuts or not pinpointing.

So now the only coils that I have that I know will work on the 1270 is the 8" that came with it and the 5", I have actually hunted with those. I will need to test my 5 x 10 elliptical and the 8" off the 1266x on the 1270 for the pinpointing problem.

Just when I thought I had it all figured out about these coils, good stuff Shooter.

Thanks

Ron in WV

 

[shooter]

Some of the Email answers from Fisher, Oh they didn't come from Felix he agrees on a replacement.



Sir,

I checked with the Technician and he says the 1270 coil is
interchangeable with the 1265,1266 and 1225 units.
Sir,

As per our technician, he says that the white coils which are the older
ones are interchangeable with the older models but not with the units
that use the black spider coils. If you'd like you may speak to him
directly to better assist. You can reach Daniel at 1-800-685-5050 ext
131, or if you prefer for him to call you please provide your number


Sylvia, Thank you for the nuts and bolts. No it was 10.5 I bought for my
1265-X a few years back, Fisher Tech. told me the older coils are not
interchangeable with the newer machine (1270) but the newer made coils
are compatible with the older machine (1265-X). One coil has 4 wires and
the other has 5 wires. The average buyer doesn't know this so they
assume all coils for the 1200 series are interchangeable as advertised.
This is totally misleading. KellyCo and Fisher and all companies
selling these are not aware of this. Even your own rep. who called about
the 1270 detector being unassembled in the box (contacted from KellyCo
Sales Rep Steve Carr) and was to about give me instructions on putting
the machine together over the phone and had to ok a replacement for the
unit told me they were int/changeable. I bought it thinking I could use
all my different size coils from my 1265X and save a lot of money. That
was a big reason in buying the 1270. Probably should have just bought a
F-75 with the cost of new coils. Fisher Tech. says they can't tell how
long ago you bought the coil. Doesn't matter I told him your advertising
all 1200 series are int/changeable and don't state any form of
manufacture date of the coil for intchangeability . So the consumer
thinks its all that series coil. Hope that helps in understanding the
problem. Be waiting to hear from you.

 

[WV62]

What a can of worms

Ron in WV

 

[WV62]

Well as it stands right now I am still in pretty good shape with my coils, the two 8" coils will interchange, and the 5x10 and the 5" will work on the 1266x and the 1270. So if I need the little 3 3/4" I will just use it on the 1266x

Ron in WV