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Do Any Of You guys Go In the Ocean?

landman

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The water seems a bit...powerful.
When home in NY I hunt fresh water and I go into
the water neck deep, however after visiting
Palm Beach and Singer Island, the surge is pretty powerful.
Do any of you hunt in the water on the ocean?
If you do at what height of wave do you NOT continue in the water?
 
If you do not know how to read rip currents and are not comfortable in the deep blue sea I'd suggest you stay out of the water no matter the wave size unless it was totally flat. I've got 30 plus years surfing/paddling etc. and I have rescued more than a hand full of people. Many people are killed that were not even in the water but got washed away by rouge waves while standing on dry land. I used to live by the fire station where the helicopters would bring in the dead bodies hanging from the basket. On top of that, it's much harder to swim if you have a bunch of equipment strapped to you. Don't mean to sound all doom and gloom, but not much in the sand is worth dying for. Now, if there were a nice chest of Spanish gold, that's a different story.
 
Depends on conditions. I've relaxingly bobbed, sinking the scoop on the wave trough in some 3 to 4 foot waves on the Gulf Coast where the waves had a soft roll, no hard break and were a good 6 to 7 seconds between waves. I have also gotten in, gotten rolled over, then gotten out for the day trying to hunt 1.5 foot waves on the Delaware coast that had a hard chop and came at two second intervals.

Conditions change a lot at the same beach on different days. It can be very dependent on prevailing winds and nearby weather disturbances.

If you are not sure you can handle the conditions, get out. Better to be on the safe side and live to hunt another day.

Here is a little bit about my visit to Singer Island a few years ago, got to Juno, Delray and Deerfield beach too on that week's vacation:
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?26,1549540,1549540#msg-1549540
Cheers,
tvr
 
Only if you're talking some bay-waters or lake-like conditions. Not if you're talking about regular ocean-facing oceans. The surge of water flowing back and forth around you all the time, and utter-blindness to see where you're swinging and trying to dig, would be nerve-wracking. The amount of strength needed to wade, swing, dig, etc.... , is going to rob precious time you have to swing, retrieve, etc.... You will find yourself perpetually wating for waves to recede, and trying to keep-yourself planted in one spot, etc...

My experience is that the super minus tide days, you can find JUST as much by simply walking out there on dry land, rather than trying to fight-the-ocean.

Now if you had some sort of placid bay-water's exception, or some sort of off-shore reefs or shallows that's just never accessible via low tides or storm erosion (like in Hawaii for instance, where the tides don't fluctuate more than a few feet), then maybe that's an exception. Maybe in some situations like that, you simply have no choice but to snorkel or wade out. But it would need to be a calm day w/o surges, IMHO. For where I'm at in CA, it can actually be dangerous to try to work out the ebbing/crashing surf. I've had to do it on occassion when that's where mother natures "target line" is. But the time spent struggling to hear and retrieve each target from the blindness of the white water and tangling seaweed, is very taxing.
 
Once and a while I will slip out deep in ruff waters, going to a drysuit and get beyond the breakers.The very best time is early morning, by afternoon water seems to start kicking up. I also watch the wind action, blowing out will calm the waters and watching the tides, the out going is calmer about 60 minutes before LT and the incoming it is time to move in closer or get out. Most of the time if I do go deep I wear a PFD, but I do know a few that wear weight belts to help hold them in place. It is a challenge to stay on the target, I have found the best teacher is go out with out the gear and see how you like it, like mentioned watch for rips. Most can be seen, these I just come in shore and walk around. I hunt the Chesapeake Bay also and went out the other day..to ruff and I left...(Pic) Be safe and good luck...
 
I get up and check the beach webcams and the nearest NOAA data for surf conditions to determine the days hunt...also, windfinder.com is helpful for incoming conditions to plan a hunt around....the waves here come up fast, and have short troughs...a guy cannot hunt in them, plus the longshore rip gets going and a fellow cant stand in knee deep water sometimes..this is Lake Michigan, on the Michigan side, the cross is from a full grown man who went out in this mess....you can see the great blowouts the waves make for right at the edge though?
Mud
 
One has to look at what the waves/surf are doing. If it is rough I may get out to where it is knee deep. Having said that I have been knocked in knee deep water by a wave when I was not watching what was coming. It is rare that I can get above waist deep in the Ocean in my area of the world. The Atlantic seems to always be in a foul mood. I like to work the wet sand as the tide recedes. That uncovers a lot of sand where folks tend to lose valuable items.
 
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