Discrimination-- which is best?

[Roper]

Hi, need a machine which can pick through tot lots, gravel parking lots, boat ramps, and trashy parks. Not much interested in depth as 3"-4" is fine. Something light with a small coil I can keep in the truck. Your comments appreciated.

Roper

Previous machines
M6
MXT
Ace 250
Sov. Elite
Sov. GT
Silver Saber U Max
Assorted Cz's
Numerous older models

 

[jamt225]

Golden Umax works good for me.

I haven't used the new fisher f70/75 with the meters etc. Don't know if they are any better.

 

[TXPIRATE]

n/t

 

[tvr]

I think I will second the Compadre.
I have only used the Compadre I just got on two short hunts so far. That said, I could quickly tell that, like the other Tesoro's I have, the discriminator works pretty well and I can get a good idea of what is under the coil by thumbing the discriminator.
Because it is half the price of what I can get the next step up in my collection for used, it is about the only detector I am going to feel comfortable just leaving in the trunk.
And it'll do a little better than 3 to 4 inches on coin like targets in most conditions.
tvr

 

[tab-nabit]

+1 for Compadre

 

[John LA]

n/t

 

[dahut]

FOr that sort of hunting, some sort of ID is a bonus. The depth your talking about is well withint the accuracy of any modern ID detctor.

More importantly, fast response and the ability to use a small coil are almost requisites. Among the Tesoro line, I'd opt for the Golden with the small 5.75 inch coil. Light, fast and a nimble trash picker - with tone ID.

 

[Mike Hillis]

You had a couple of good ones for that on your list already.

The M6 with the 5x10 DD coil would have done that task easy enough. So would have the ACE-250.

In the Tesoro line up I have to recommend the Golden MicroMax. Fit it with a Cleansweep and go sweeping. The thing with tone id is that you don't have to dawdle over a target to figure out where its coming from.

You DO like tone id don't you

Good luck with your choice.

Mike

 

[tabdog]

One of tha very best is a Compadre.

If you learn it, it does what you said in spades.

Tha Vaquero goes deep on small gold jewelry.

Tha Eldorado can work in iron trash great.

But for tha way you talked, tha Compadre is

very hard ta beat.

I've got one with a 5.75" and one with a 7" coil.

You would probably like tha 5.75 a little better.

But tha way you talked, tha 7" is just as good.

I like them both.

They are less than 2.2 pounds.

I mean, it's a kind of detectin bliss sometimes,

if you like it.

HH,

Tabdog

 

[Roper]

HI, thanks for your comments and suggestions. I like the idea of multi-tones with the Golden. While the Compadre is simple and light. I liked the Ace 250 but found it not particularly good at discrimination. The M6 is great but too deep for my 'messing' around. As I recall, my old Silver Saber Umax would hit hard on a good target in very trashy areas and that is what I'm looking for. Something in the circuitry I'd imagine. Some of the new machines might work but the mfrs. are pushing deep and bells and whistles and pretty pictures, and I I don't want deep just discrimination. I'll try to find a Compadre and Golden to look at. Again, thanks for the suggestions.

Roper

 

[dahut]

HI, thanks for your comments and suggestions. I like the idea of multi-tones with the Golden. While the Compadre is simple and light.

You get 'em both with the Golden, since they share the same uMax platform.
There is no difference in weight or balance, between the two either, except for the stock coil.

You can make the Golden as simple as you want, or really work it. It can be very focused by using the notch properly.
It is so focused, in fact, you can distinguish the various types of pulltabs with it!
WIth his permission, I can post Mike Hillis's notching map and other details to help you make the most of the Golden. Just say the word.

There is no difference in weight or balance, between the two either, except for the stock coil.

I recently traded my Golden - big mistake. I soon realized my error. So I sold one of my other detectors, and found another Golden. I'll replace the sold unit in time, but I won't soon make that mistake again with the Golden.

As long as you can afford it, why settle for less? Believe it or not, it is one of my favorite relic detectors, when the conditions are right.
Get a 5.75" Tesoro or 7" Troy coil for the Golden and you can do all you ask - and more.

 

[Mike Hillis]

I do stuff like that to help me understand my machines and I'm glad it helps other folks as well. No need to ask.

HH

Mike

 

[dahut]

I do stuff like that to help me understand my machines and I'm glad it helps other folks as well. No need to ask.

HH

Mike

Thanks, Bro.

 

[Uncle Willy]

Since this is a Tesoro forum the logical choice would be the Compadre.

Bill

 

[Monte]

Hi, need a machine which can pick through tot lots, gravel parking lots, boat ramps, and trashy parks.

There can actually be more of a mix if conditions in your list that could dictate the detector's requirements.

"Tot Lots", alone, can run the range from wood chip or bark chip to sand, to pea gravel, and I even hunt one up here in Oregon a couple of times a year that has cherry pits as a medium! Pea gravel, like some sand choices, can be quite mineralized. So much that it will have a definite impact on performance if you use any discrimination at all, even for iron rejection. Thus, you should have a detector models that provides a true, all-metal accept minimum setting ... (in Tesoro lingo that's called ED-180).

Trashy parks and such also call for a slow-motion, quick-response detector, and the use of a smaller-than-stock coil. Naturally, more open areas suggest the ability to use a typical 'standard' size coil, which ranges from 8" to 9

 

[dahut]

- KNOW YOUR AREA.
Depending on where you live, the likelihood of ceratin conditions prevailing could dictate choices.

For example, here in SC mineralization is low and tot lots are invariably chips or sand. Fancy auto tracking or even manual GB couldn't hurt, but I haven't had to change the GB to any degree in the several seasons I've had a Vaquero here. A light, simple to use package with decent TID/tone ID has proven more beneficial for me than a gazillion hi-tech features. Again, your needs dictate your choices.

 

[Roper]

I appreciate the suggestions. Seems the Compadre and Golden are closest to the Silver Saber UMax I remember as a very good machine.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to reply to my question.

Roper