Disc'd coins in stock coin program?

[Ohio Digger]

I thought I read or saw a video that an Etrac used said you are disc'ing some silver coins if you use the stock coin program? Which coins are these and what area of the pattern needs to be opened up to avoid disc'ing them out?

 

[Johnnyanglo]

First, the stock coin program uses way too much DISC. Second, there is no reason to use any of the stock programs.

The simple solution is to use 4TF and then use the pattern below:

[attachment 263893 4TFMin-Disc2.jpg]

The pattern shows all the DISC needed in 4TF. It may seem barren compared to the massive DISC used in other programs. But it isn't necessary in 4TF.
Here's the areas to DISC:

1Co - 35Co and from 1Fe - 3Fe
1Co - 2Co and from 4Fe - 8Fe
1Co and from 18Fe - 28Fe
1Co - 50Co and from 29Fe - 30Fe
49Co - 50Co and from 1Fe - 2Fe
50Co and from 3Fe - 7Fe

The High Tone covers the upper-right -- Silver.
The Med-High covers the ideal non-ferrous zone along 12Fe +/- 4. (rings, clad, silver)
The Med-Low Tone is great for the deeper coins buried in iron-dense soil. (old coins)
The Low Tone is not DISC's but is just ignored. (iron)

Because the Tones are tied to target types it contains intelligent audio information. If you get the High Tone you know it's a great find (well probably).

 

[Ohio Digger]

Hmm interesting. I'll have to look into that. My Etrac just got here tonight, haven't even unboxed yet. Thanks for the tip.

 

[knightsquad]

Johnny,
This pattern looks interesting but what does it actually Disc out ?

First, the stock coin program uses way too much DISC. Second, there is no reason to use any of the stock programs.

The simple solution is to use 4TF and then use the pattern below:

[attachment 263893 4TFMin-Disc2.jpg]

The pattern shows all the DISC needed in 4TF. It may seem barren compared to the massive DISC used in other programs. But it isn't necessary in 4TF.
Here's the areas to DISC:

1Co - 35Co and from 1Fe - 3Fe
1Co - 2Co and from 4Fe - 8Fe
1Co and from 18Fe - 28Fe
1Co - 50Co and from 29Fe - 30Fe
49Co - 50Co and from 1Fe - 2Fe
50Co and from 3Fe - 7Fe

The High Tone covers the upper-right -- Silver.
The Med-High covers the ideal non-ferrous zone along 12Fe +/- 4. (rings, clad, silver)
The Med-Low Tone is great for the deeper coins buried in iron-dense soil. (old coins)
The Low Tone is not DISC's but is just ignored. (iron)

Because the Tones are tied to target types it contains intelligent audio information. If you get the High Tone you know it's a great find (well probably).

 

[Johnnyanglo]

*** This pattern looks interesting but what does it actually Disc out ? ***

For most people the only important DISC area is the 29-30Fe. This affects the Med-Low Tone by keeping the higher-probability junk iron from giving a tone within that zone. That leaves the 18-28Fe the Med-Low Tone, which is a zone worth considering for down-averaged coins in mineralized soil. Iron will be increasing likely the lower the Fe number, so it helps isolate the tone to the more likely coin areas. The top several Fe DISC lines are there to silence strong iron that wraps around to the low Fe values. The upper-right DISC is just to silence hot-rocks - for most people it is not necessary.

Overall, even my light use of DISC is a bit excessive. That is, some areas could easily be cut back or tailored to your hunting area. You can only use this pattern with 4TF. It is the only mode I use now because it works so well. The goal is not to add more DISC but to remove whatever you really don't need. The pattern becomes an on-going process of removing unnecessary DISC and paring down to the bare minimum.

 

[knightsquad]

Cool!
Sounds good!
THANKS!

Pete

*** This pattern looks interesting but what does it actually Disc out ? ***

For most people the only important DISC area is the 29-30Fe. This affects the Med-Low Tone by keeping the higher-probability junk iron from giving a tone within that zone. That leaves the 18-28Fe the Med-Low Tone, which is a zone worth considering for down-averaged coins in mineralized soil. Iron will be increasing likely the lower the Fe number, so it helps isolate the tone to the more likely coin areas. The top several Fe DISC lines are there to silence strong iron that wraps around to the low Fe values. The upper-right DISC is just to silence hot-rocks - for most people it is not necessary.

Overall, even my light use of DISC is a bit excessive. That is, some areas could easily be cut back or tailored to your hunting area. You can only use this pattern with 4TF. It is the only mode I use now because it works so well. The goal is not to add more DISC but to remove whatever you really don't need. The pattern becomes an on-going process of removing unnecessary DISC and paring down to the bare minimum.

 

[hershey1]

Go to relic mode which is almost totally open then set 2T and because relic is already in ferrous you are set. Now the question about some silver coins being disced out. This would be big silver. Edit out the top right. Minelab took care of this on the CTX 3030 but you need to do it yourself on the E-Trac. Nice machine take your time and the E-Trac will reward you. HH

 

[knightsquad]

Hershey,
You mean to open up that whole top corner?
I mean isn't that whole top right opened in Relic?
At work now so can't check, sorry.

Go to relic mode which is almost totally open then set 2T and because relic is already in ferrous you are set. Now the question about some silver coins being disced out. This would be big silver. Edit out the top right. Minelab took care of this on the CTX 3030 but you need to do it yourself on the E-Trac. Nice machine take your time and the E-Trac will reward you. HH