DIG ALL TARGETS ????

[aquacop911]

I am finding that you have to dig all targets with the 1000. I can't, for the life of me, tell what the crap is in the ground by the tones. No doubt it will tone on everything and detect very deep but dang! I went from the ACE 250 to the excal 1000 that will, 90 % of the time, tell you what your digging for before you dig. What am I doing wrong and how long does it take to figure out what the thing is trying to tell ya? I mainly purchased the 1000 for under water detecting but I would love to be able to leave the 250 at home while on dry land. Just because of what it set me back.....uno whatImean?

 

[Beachcomber]

If you wanted to know what the target might be before digging it you would need the Sov with the meter. THe Tone range on a Sov or Excal are not really good enough to use for target ID. You can usually tell a coin from a nickel because there is a decent difference in tone between them but range from low tone to high tone isn't enough for good audio ID. On the other hand the Explorer Series has excellent Audio ID. It is unfortunate that in the 17 years that the Sov/Excal series has been around that Minelab has never chosen to upgrade the Audio ID circuitry to put it on a par with an Explorer. But the main reason most people buy Excaliburs is for water/beach hunting where they are looking for gold. Since Gold depending on size and Karat can read anywhere from tinfoil to penny most beach hunters dig everything except iron signals and some even dig those if the signal is also very faint in the All Metal mode but that's another subject. SO basically if you just want to dig coins then you will need to take your Ace 250 but if you are looking for gold then the Excal is the one you want to be using and dig everything that doesn't null. JMHO

HH

Beachcomber

 

[Macaco]

You need to put in some more hours with it and you'll begin to hear that different targets do make different sounds.

Clad and silver coins have a clean, high pitch. Aluminum tabs have a much lower, brash pitch for instance.

Save all the targets you dig. At the end of the day, find a clean patch of sand and throw out some of the targets on the sand. Sweep the coil over them, one by one, and you'll notice the difference in tone.

After a few more hours of hunting you'll be tuned into the machine.

 

[Wisconsin Pete]

Until I totally get familiar with this new machine I will keep on digging it all, though I have gotten the pull tab tone down pretty well I'm still digging it to get the trash out of the area. A few hundered pull tabs =$$$ when I take in my aluminum cans. And when I did a test on one of my wifes gold rings the Excal was like saying "Dig it"...to me...but then again I live in a little differant world than most of you....my sky's are slightly bluer than yours...HH

 

[Art (NWOH)]

A clue for you guys...

If you swing too fast all you get is a beep. Different conductivity targets will give a different tone, but it's still just a beep.

If you work the coil slowly over the target, you will notice a difference in the QUALITY of the sound. It's a complex pattern. Somewhat like listening to a trumpet and a guitar both playing the same note, but you can tell the difference....
The tones generated are not pure singular tones...

When you play around with a target, you start to get the feel of size and depth also. Even the shape of the object or how it lays in the ground can be almost predictable if you slowly work your way around it.

HH

 

[Dang]

Once you get the hang of those tones youll love it......so I'm told.
But hey! Isn't it nice to dig up those "deep" targets for a change that the Ace can't even get close too?

 

[Wisconsin Pete]

n/t

 

[adam in cal]

I respectfully disagree with you on that Beachcomber , I feel the range is good enough to tell what is being passed over,to my ears the difference between a zinc penny and a pre 82 penny is very difinative.

 

[Sanddigger]

n/t

 

[Beachcomber]

You're a very lucky person to be able to hear that slight change in tone. I can easily hear the difference in tone between a Zinc and a copper penny with my Explorer but not with my GT or any other Sov that I have owned.

HH

Beachcomber

 

[Art (NWOH)]

I can tell the difference between zincs and coppers with both my Sovs...
But not by the target audio. It's the threshold tone left over after the target audio passes. Distinctly different pitch.
Probably happens because there is variation in the target audio that makes it hard to distinguish the difference, while the threshold audio (once the target has passed) is constant and gives you a chance to hear a steady tone.

HH

 

[adam in cal]

They sound more ''twangy'' to me where as the copper ones sound better with less twang to them , what headphones do you use?? I have tried a couple and the timeberwolves really make the sounds come to life where as the killer B's are good but didn't have nearly the same volume or sound differences to them, and the real cheapies I have just make everything sound relatively close together, I wonder how much that effects things ??

 

[Brian(upstateNY)]

n/t

 

[Dang]

Do headphones really make that big of a difference? Right now I'm using some 39 dollar pair. They weren't the cheapest in the shop but they sure weren't the most expensive pair.
Hey! Maybe I'll trade my Ace for a high quality pair of headphones!

 

[adam in cal]

they do make a big difference, as you get into the ''better'' headphones the differences are subtle, I prefer the timber wolves for my hearing, I know the volume is vastly superior to my inexpensive pair,There are several good brands and once you get into those I think it becomes a matter of personal preference, I would like to try other sets but they cost money so It's tough to just plunk down major bread and then decide they don't have the recipe your looking for, I have Killer B's ''the wasp'' model and the Timber-wolf ''predator'' of those two I rely on the timber-wolf for the sov., For my extera I don't see any difference between the two sets so I run the killer Bees on the extera. And my cheap set just mildew in the garage waiting for who knows what fate.....

 

[Rick(ND)]

I have tried many different sets as my hearing is not that good anymore and found the Timberwolfs have the volume I need plus I can tell the tones on the Sovereign better myself. Now on my Explorer I found the Troy Pros have the volume I need and the Timberwolfs are not as loud.
With Headphones it is nice to be able to try different sets as what some may like others do not. I Have some guys here that feel the Gray Ghost NDT and the Ultimates are the best, then I have others that like the new Sun Ray Pro Golds while I like the Timberwolfs and the Troy Pros for my hearing. Anyway you look at it you should have a pair made for detecting that are comfortable and built to last with a good warranty.

 

[vw242]

They are light weight and sound great. The sunray service is second to none.