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DeepTech

Difference between the difference Silver Sabres?

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Tom_in_CA

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What is the difference between the different generations/incarnations of the Silver Sabre that Tesoro has produced over the years? I'm wanting to get one for the "averaging" ability these 2-filter machines are known for. Ie.: not as prone to masking. You can set it to *just barely* reject nails, and, when putting a coin beneath a nail, still have a fair shot at getting a conductive hit off the coin :) Something the power-house-deep-seeker machines would mask on. I'm not so concerned about depth, as I'd only be pulling this out for things like burned down houses (where iron/nails abound), ghost town type sites, urban demolition, etc... In those places, depth is not a factor, but target-separation and see-through/averaging IS a factor.

If the later Umax versions of the Sabre were meant to be deeper seeking, then I would suppose that the EARLIER versions would be better, in regards to their averaging/separating ability? Because usually the deeper-seeking a machine is, the more you're prone to masking, as a general rule. So how do the different Sabres compare in this regard. Thanx!
 
Hi Tom, not sure if I sent my results to you earlier. But I done the dime nail test and the result was - The Silver Sabre Plus surprised me today - I put a dime on the ground and a nail on top of the dime & the Sabre sounded off loud and clear sweeping my coil north to south and east to west. I tried the same thing with my Bandito II uMax and only got a good clean beep swinging my coil from east to west, it gave a crackled broken beep north to south. Sabre should be good in iron. I took the Sabre to a park today for about 20 minutes it was cold and snowing, but I did manage to find some clad and the depth was as good as any of the other non "HOT" (Cibola,Vaquero,Tejon) machines that I have had. I would say that most of them were about 6 inches deep. If you search the forums for some of Monte's posts he has some very good info on all the Tesoro's, new ones & older ones. Steve.
 
Hi ski-whiz. Yes, I'm sure all the Sabres would excell in this class of test. My question is, which one does it best? Yes, Monte has a great grasp for the variations and differences on all the different lineups. I have an email out to him. But as you know, he can get bombarded with emails, since he is so kind and generous with his knowledge. So you gotta be paitent for replies :)
 
Hi Tom, I just sent a guy I know an email and hope that he jumps in when he gets time, he is a great guy & another wealth of knowledge. Steve.
 
Hey Tom, the earlier Sabres are prone to masking low conductive targets (small gold etc) due to the D90 disc, but work well for finding coins in the trash.
You may want to consider getting a Compadre, they use the 'old time' non-high gain circuitry but have the ED180 disc so masking of low conductors is greatly reduced.
With the 5.75 coil it would be great for hunting the sites you mentioned. I have an Amigo II/7" coil and it amazes me at times.
Of course the Sabres do have a sensitivity control which could be a benifit for trash hunting, the early non umax Bandidos have a 10 turn gb, if thats a factor for your ground.
My original Bandido is a very good trash hunter, when looking for silver/copper targets.
HH Kevin
 
the best one as for finds and target separation is the current Silver uMax.

I wish Tesoro would have put a threshold knob on it but still it always tested deeper and better than the older models.

Put the 10x12 concentric coil on the Silver uMax and in actual finds it will match machines costing over $1000.
 
I did the test as well, although I think maybe I'll try a bigger square nail, or maybe two. Right beside each other, my Sidewinder and Fisher F5 separated the targets well, with the nail on top, still got a good signal with either machine, the target ID on the F5 simply lowered a notch (reading penny rather than dime) as if it averaged the two. This was with the standard coils. I was expecting worse.
 
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