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Detecting Is An Art / Reply To Question Do You Dig VDI in The 50 Range

Bill G

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On another thread or post to make it short a guy basically ask do you dig VDI numbers in the 50 range with the AT Pro as he was having some small issues with the learning curve. The same issues we all have struggled with at one time or another with detectors in our learning curve.

Below was my answer to him I thought I would pass it on.


Detecting is an art, quite often guys get caught up in the detector gadgets and the ID screen, don't get me wrong these are all great tools to use to our advantage. Really a guy needs to learn on a ID machine what types of items come in at different VDI numbers and there are a grip of different things that will ID as something different than a coin and the detector is saying it's a coin or a good target, this is do to many factors. Also learn the sounds if the detector has tone ID features pay attention here even if the detector does not have tone ID sound will tell you a lot. Now with all that said you take the information you have learned and apply it to the area you are hunting, things such as the age and history of the area, what was built there, the ground conditions, the trash content and the types of trash. Lots of iron?? lots of aluminium trash?? pop tops, foil, tab's, old nails and so on.

To answer your question it all depends on this data for example a nickle falls around 52 VDI on the AT Pro. So now I am hunting at an old house site from the 1900 and I get a strong sort of bouncy 50,51,52,53 VDI. yes I will dig it might be an old nickle that's been in the ground for a long time and has patina and is tarnished a little or on it's side throwing the VDI of a little. Now same example different place. I am at a modern built new park with no history just coin hunting for fun the site has lots of aluminum trash and I get the same thing VDI readings of 50,51,52,53 bouncing around I may not dig it unless it locks on a solid 52 being more than likely a nickle. I may move on as it is more than likely aluminum trash of some type. The deciding factor was using all the data listed above to make my decision.

Also sizing a target helps when you pin point if the object is bigger than a coin like the piece of metal post you described you can follow it and see that is
it's a bigger or longer target in the ground, this also helps in making the decision to dig.

Yes I hunt VDI numbers in the 50 and up but I also size things up based on all the data available to me using learned experience that come over time and many hrs and years of detecting. Do I get it right every time, heck no it's all part of the detecting game yes sometimes it's frustrating but the gain out ways the aggravation.(Sort of like the way my friends that play Golf explain there games He He!!)

No detector is perfect but if you learn the one you have well it will be good to you.

Just my 2 cents here,

Take Care,
Bill G
 
I found a 1978 nickel in the river yesterday that was a solid 52, but on another target I got a 04 on the DVI and the pip sound and it was a dime. I had some moisture showing inside my dvi window and hope that wasn't the cause, but when I get the pip, I dig regardless of what's on the DVI reading.
 
most my gold rings come in the 50,s high 48,s also old colonial buttons often hit in mid 50,s but yes so does lots of trash its all in the game most of the time i,ll dig 50,s but some area,s i may pass some 50,s just say dig me play the odds
 
teleman2525 said:
most my gold rings come in the 50,s high 48,s also old colonial buttons often hit in mid 50,s but yes so does lots of trash its all in the game most of the time i,ll dig 50,s but some area,s i may pass some 50,s just say dig me play the odds

Yes sir teleman2525 I agree 100%. There are so many items good and trash and a grip of gold items that come in at that range of VDI numbers (mid 40 to high 50 even the low 60) It's a shame that a grip of aluminum trash also falls in this range so we all dig trash a lot to get the good goodies like gold rings. Again as mentioned in the original post one needs to learn his detector well then he should take all the location information into account. The last step is to determine the kinds of targets he is looking for or willing to dig when making the decision to dig. It's a game we do not always get it right but we give it hell.

On another note nice Fender Tele in your photo, I love my Fender Tele, well I guess I am a Tele man too. Great playing and hunting to you.

Take Care,
Bill G
 
I hear you Bill. I have found no substitute for putting in real time with any new machine. And after a while the various bits of input get processed quicker to form a quick sort of gut instinct. Maybe not perfect, but the percentages of being correct definately increase. I have only used the ATP this year since spring and I would say that I am 3\4 sure with it right now. I basicly know what numbers are clad pennies, what numbers are common pull tabs, etc. I was also delightfully surprised with the machines accuracy with foil. I am basicly, for the most part, a cherry picker due to degenerative arthritis in my lower vertebra. And tones are just one more clue to help me in a dig or no dig decision. My pickiness decreases when the age or rarity of a site increases.
 
Yep, there's a point once you've put in enough hours swinging the AT (or any) detectors when your earvs gets sharpened up to where it's instinctive. Having said that, I still dig tons of trash. Before digging, I play the 'what is it?' game, and I'm usually correct. I had enough pleasant surprises that I don't resent the trash as much as I did when I got started. Sometimes I think I dig too much junk & could be more productive by focusing on only the best signals, time and energy being finite, but I just have to make sure! :goodnight:
 
The One Dollar Gold Coin I dug was a 50-51. You just never know till you dig. I always tell new guys to dig every signal that doesn't vary to much and doesn't sound like iron. I run pro-zero, no disc, one bar from full sensitivity. If it sounds good, I dig it. Joe.
 
surfman said:
The One Dollar Gold Coin I dug was a 50-51. You just never know till you dig. I always tell new guys to dig every signal that doesn't vary to much and doesn't sound like iron. I run pro-zero, no disc, one bar from full sensitivity. If it sounds good, I dig it. Joe.

Yes surfman that is so true... What year was your Gold Coin??? I found the 1906 five dollar Gold Coin in the pic's a few years ago ( high 60's low 70's on VDI if I remember right about 5" down by an old dried up tree) it was in extra fine condition ( lost early in it's life no ware on it at all ). Gold Coins are rare and hard to come across in the ground these days

Take Care,
Bill G.
 
Call me crazy but I dig all mid to high tones cause I don't want to miss anything good! I do empty my trash pouch 2-3 times during a hunt but I know I'm not passing up gold.
 
My Gold Coin was an 1852 one dollar in near perfect condition. It was only around 4" and was the sweetest mid tone I've ever heard. Dug a gold ring about 15mins later. It was a 60-61 if I remember. Was already posted so most have already seen it. For me, metal detecting is all about the mystery of what's under the coil. Most places I hunt I dig anything 40 and up. Dig a lot of crap but you can't argue with the results. Good luck and happy hunting, Joe.
 
I never get tired of looking at those!! :drool:
 
William-NM said:
I never get tired of looking at those!! :drool:

Me neither, I love looking at all kinds of finds new and old. I just wish I could find some more old ones or gold ones (heck that rhymes He He!!!) I ran around like a fool in complete disbelief when I found the 1906 five dollar gold coin above in the pic that I found a few years back.

Nice hunting & great finds to everyone,
Bill G
 
surfman said:
The One Dollar Gold Coin I dug was a 50-51. You just never know till you dig. I always tell new guys to dig every signal that doesn't vary to much and doesn't sound like iron. I run pro-zero, no disc, one bar from full sensitivity. If it sounds good, I dig it. Joe.

I totally agree,and that is my settings also. A deep hammered coin can get in 30-40 area if you go by VDI. And I have dug a fantastic Anglo-Saxon sceat at crazy depth,and that was a whiiisper for sure at 40 range,but once up 67....

Mike
 
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