Went out today with a friend on a very old property. He had the Garrett pin pointer that prompted me to get the Kuman pin pointer, which looks identical to the Garrett. I have the Sun Ray pin pointer on my Explorer, which should have served me well, but it is sometimes awkward. The Sun Ray works great, but I am not always sure of my settings. My fault, no doubt on settings. Guess I need to re-learn my detector.