to be considered. Look at what you have now. Consider what you want a detector to do and what types of trash you'll encounter, then figure what detector will provide the best overall performance for you. Then, with that info, make a buying decision.
moose57 said:
Hello everyone;I am looking to get another tesoro detector.
Why? I have had more than one Tesoro, and I am looking for one or two more now [size=small](a brand new 3-coil pack Outlaw and a pristine condition Silver
Sabre µMAX)[/size], for defined reasons. There must be a specific reason(s) and you haven't explained WHY you are looking for one of the mentioned Tesoro's.
moose57 said:
My question is I am like Tabman in a way,but not as good as he is.
Are you sure? We should never underestimate ourselves. On the other-hand, even though Tabman hasn't been detecting all that long,
he has been actively detecting more often than most I know of in the hobby. That also draws a line because some people are more 'Hobbyist' based in their detecting time and do not get into it enough to really learn their detector, and more than one detector often limits what they can learn in the long run. An
avid 'Detectorist' usually spends more devoted and dedicated time to using and learning their detectors, and that means putting in the time afield which makes a lot of difference.
moose57 said:
I am looking at buying a deleon,for coin and jewlery hunting,...
Why? Do you Coin & Jewelry Hunt now? If so, what do you want or need a DeLeón for? What will it provide you in the way of versatile performance that you do not have presently?
moose57 said:
... and looking at these other detectors,the compadre and silver umax.
Again, ... Why? If you already have one or more Tesoro's, why would you want or need a low-end and more limited feature model? I have to ask because you didn't explain why.
moose57 said:
Can anyone tell me how good these other detectors work from your experinces with these detectors. I have these detectors,the golden umax with the new tones and the cibola, ...
A two-part question, or a question about what you want, and a reference to what you use.
Okay, this is going to be simple, in a way, but it brings about some observations, then questions, then suggestions.
Observations:
• You currently have two (2) Tesoro models. One of the 'standard' frequency range and one of the 'higher' frequency models.
• Both of the Tesoro's you own rely on an internally preset Ground Balance.
• Both of the Tesoro model you have were designed for Coin and Jewelry hunting.
• Neither of the Tesoro model you currently own provide a manual Ground Balance control to give you, the operator, more functional control for versatility.
Questions:
• What types of sites do you usually search? Ground type and condition, such as lawns, dirt, sand, pea gravel, rocky area, etc.
• How mineralized is the ground where you are or places where you go? It would help if you had some actual reference, such as a detector information display that would report the Ground Phase/Ground Balance reference, or maybe the Fe[sub]3[/sub]O[sub]4[/sub] read-out for the ground, or maybe even describe the general location in the country where you live and hunt.
• Is there a reason you do not own, or are not shopping for, a detector that would give you better all-around performance by controlling the Ground Balance?
• What search coils do you now own and use, or what coils would you get to use with a new model?
• Since you have two Tesoro's, one with a Threshold-based All Metal Pinpoint mode and another with a Threshold-based All Metal search mode, why would you be interested in two models [size=small](the Compadre and Silver µMAX)[/size] that do not have a traditional All Metal OR Pinpoint function?
Suggestions:
• Consider shopping for a detector, other than a Tesoro, which provides the features and functions you want in a detector that would be a complement to your Golden µMAX and Cibola.
-- or --
• Buy a NEW Tesoro that
does have more functional control, such as the Outlaw with manual Ground Balance. Or you could shop for a used Tesoro with a manual GB, such as the Bandido II µMAX.
moose57 said:
... if you where going to add another detector would you get a deleon,or silver umax,or compadre.
I'll guarantee you it wouldn't be one of those three because I have owned one DeLeón, perhaps 4 Silver µMAX, and 6 or 7 Compadres. I know them enough to know I would
not be pleased with any of them.
The DeLeón has an internally preset GB trimmer controlling the All Metal mode and the Discriminate mode, and that's not the best thing. The TID is very limited to five segments, and way too many targets are lumped into the upper VDI reading. For its suggested retail there are many other detectors out there on the market, new, that provide a lot more function and performance, thus are more versatile.
The Silver µMAX and Compadre lack a conventional Threshold-based All Metal mode or a traditional Pinpoint mode, and to me that diminishes their usefulness. For the dollar invested, that's a feature that should be there and isn't. They also have a preset GB, and you already have two Tesoro's so designed.
The Compadre is even more limiting because it has a fixed search coil and can't swap around with the other model you have with an interchangeable coil. If I were going to add another Tesoro, if new it would be an Outlaw, and if used, it would most likely be a used Outlaw or a Bandido II µMAX because they both share the same coils as your Golden µMAX, and they both have a manual GB control. Important with most Tesoro models for peak performance, especially in the Discriminate mode.
moose57 said:
Thank you all for your info.And ending I would like to say to everyone have a safe and gloris thanks giving.
Thanks, and you have a great Thanksgiving Holiday as well. According to Accu-Weather, my Thursday looks like this:
Thanksgiving Day
A slight chance of rain. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 49.
So, it looks like it won't be a detecting day. I will be at home, getting the tree decorated as I work on Thanksgiving Dinner and make sure the right football teams get cheered on their way.
Then open the books and notepad and continue with my winter research. No need to shop for a detector as I have what works .... even though I have a detector being shipped to me today that will stay in my arsenal, and I hope to trade a brand new F19 for a brand new Outlaw package. I am also open to a pristine condition Silver Sabre µMAX, and am waiting to hear from a certain person about his Eldorado.
Monte
