Deleon is nice!

[saika]

Well I have had a week of good hunting to try out my new to me Deleon. I am very happy with how it performs in the wilds. The TAB id on it is 99%. I have dug tabs just to be sure, but no more. I have also noticed that my count of US coins has just skyrocketed. Depth of a coin sized target is dead on. I do wish it would retune just a bit slower or not at all in AM.

The only headscratcher to me is pinpointing at times, if the coin isn't dead flat it can really skew the results much more than with my Vaquero, if it is flat the PP is bang on in the center of the coil. Canadian coin VDIs have to be learned as the clad comes in all over the VDI range with dimes being the worst, nickles the best. If I do get over a coin, at any angle, it just latches on and gives a very steady and repeatable tone and VDI with very little drift. This in itself lets me know when it is a coin, now to improve my ability to pinpoint with this unit better.

I may just put on a small coil and be done with it .

Take care everybody and thanks for all of your help in the past.

 

[Marc(NB)]

if your tab id is at 99% and you either disc out or just dont dig that particular signal...will you miss gold rings?Or does it ID gold a tad higher or lower on the graph?

 

[saika]

The VDI on gold is usually below the tab value, tabs run in the 40s or low 50s, gold usually below 40. The other point is that rings have a bit of a smear leaning towards the iron side, tabs usually give a solid bar in the tabs line with a slight line left or right of tab, but never a smear. Ring shaped objects also give a different quality of tone and do not change VDI towards the edges as muchas a tab does. Also the tab holds a stronger signal the more you lift your coil

 

[Marc(NB)]

probably wont have to dig all the tab to get a positive hit on gold...Ive just picked up a golden umax ... Its frozen up here,I played with it inside the house...seems like it may be a good dector for cherry picking through heavy trash site.Thanks for your feedback.HH

 

[Wirechief]

Hi Marc, you are going to like the Golden uMax. It will see through trash to let you know you have a good target. I love my Golden. I also have the DeLeon and I enjoy it also. It seems to be pretty close on the ID readout. Ok Marc and Saika enjoy and God Bless.

John Tomlinson,CET
John's Detectors

 

[rentasquid]

When I had my Cortes, I checked out my gold wedding ring, and it was smack-dab in the middle of the pull-tab range.

J.

 

[saika]

You are correct, some of them do read right in the middle of tab. A quick twist of the disc button will make their audio response disappear before a tab ever would.

 

[rentasquid]

If tabs are hitting in the 40-50 range, for instance, and my ring is sittin' at 45, how can you dial out either/or(without using notch)? It seems that you will eliminate anything below which could be tabs and/or rings. It might sound "rounder" but how can you be sure one way or another that you arent eliminating junk, or a goody? Help me with my confusion.

J.

 

[saika]

I just move the disc knob per target, the ring will start breaking up before a tab will. I just return the knob to its original setting before moving on. So it is sort of like a do-it-yourself-variable-notch-at-the-time. Agreed that I may miss some rings this way but I will get more than if I don't. I really like your analogy Squid, thanks for asking.

More detail added:
ring 1 7-9 vdi (jump to 20)bars read nickle and foil, higher in nickle
ring 2 39-41 vdi bars stay high in either tab or nickle but will swap
sq tab 44-45 tab bars share with nickle bar region 50/50
ring 3 49-52 (jump to 63 at times) vdi bars stay high in tab region
ro tab 45-60 tab bars stay high in tab region

How it works. Most rings will knock out before a round tab will, the smaller rings will knock out before a square tab will. I run my disc setting somewhere in the foil range.

 

[rentasquid]

n/t

 

[Bob in Iowa]

I've used a DeLeon since they first came out. I agree with the pulltab signals. I don't dig a lot of them either. I've found a few rings that show in the silver range, they sound like quarters. not real solid, kind of wavery. A dime or penny will be a nice solid signal. If a signal says Nickel, 98% of the time it's right on. A Wheat Penny or Indian Head Penny will be a penny signal, but may jump around.
To help pinpoint, move the coil in an X pattern or = pattern over your target, fairly fast, don't let the coil stop. Mine hits in the center of the coil nearly every time.
To help ID a target, switch to All Metal and move the coil slower.
It's a good detector, I've bought other brands to replace it, but I sold them instead.
HH

 

[saika]

Funny about the pinpointing, it looks like it is very affected by the orientation of the coin. More so than any other unit I have ever used. A flat coin is dead center but if it has any lean on it, it is a real turkey shoot. You are also right about different coins having different qualities in their tones. My very first target was a Canadian nickle and it wouldn't budge the bar readings.

I have not dug a single bottle cap yet, very pleased about that. I have noticed that my count of Canadian dimes is way down. In air tests some of the newer ones can read 0 or 1 at best and really bounce around. A one dollar coin rings out at 95 every time but the 2 dollar coins read lower.

It sure is a fun machine to use and thanks for the tips, much appreciated.

Have a nice Easter or Passover everyone.