Deleon and large aluminum screw tops

[Anonymous]

I am seriously considering adding a Deleon to my arsenal. My favorite site for old coins has enough of those large aluminum screw caps in it to pay down the national debt in scrap value. My Golden Saber 2 always tricks me into digging them. Is the Deleon capable of giving a fairly accurate ID and/or discrimination so that I can leave these treasures to someone who appreciates them more than I do?

 

[Anonymous]

I suppose I need to clarify a little bit more. I am well aware that I am going to dig my fair share of junk targets. As I have never used a TID but have read about everything I can find about them, I see that some junk targets ID numerically different than good targets and will display multiple bars. I have read that pull and notch tabs ID numerically higher than gold items. I am curious to find out if those infernal caps display the same tendancies as pulltops. On my most recent junket my GS2 gave me a good beeping on a pulltab. After I dug the offender out, I saw about one inch of gold chain in the hole. I re-swept the hole and got no signal even with no disc and max sens. It was a perfect 14" chain. Sometimes you have to take the good with the junk!

 

[Anonymous]

I use the cortes and it also has lcd, I am very new and have found the lcd is pretty much dead on. the BOOK that came with it says the lcd is never 100% and if you get a good signal they say dig it.

 

[Anonymous]

In my experience with metered and non-metered machines, the aluminum screwcaps are going to come in about the zinc penny range or higher, depending on its size and how mashed or mutilated it may be. I can usually recognize them as I raise my coil and they read farther from the coil than a coin. Thats true in discrimination mode and also all metal mode. If you switch the GS2 to all metal mode, swing back and forth over the target while raising the coil, a coin signal will fade out faster than the caps. Caps will have a 'wider' and louder sound than a coin too in all metal mode. The GS2 has a much smoother all metal mode with a much slower auto-tune than the more recent Tesoro designs. I have owned a GS2 since about 91 and I still say it is one of the smoothest and slickest operating coin machines made and once you understand its 'language', it gives you audio information about a target that is more accurate than a meter. Then again, maybe I'm just getting old and set in my ways

 

[Anonymous]

I have a Cortez and understand the DeLeon is similar. It has been my experience that aluminum caps will give you an "almost too good to be true" signal. One advantage to the metered machine is that you may be able to find an id number that typically ends up being a common junk item. You simply avoid that number when hunting that site. The flip side is you may pass over the shallow walking liberty quarter that gives the same id. I would recommend the Cortez highly. It's a great machine. Happy hunting.

 

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[Anonymous]

Those aluminium screw caps are a curse <img src="/metal/html/angry.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":mad"> and pull tabs too <img src="/metal/html/angry.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":mad"> <img src="/metal/html/angry.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":mad"> !!! The trouble is, as you so rightly point out is; these unwanted non ferrous targets ALWAYS give you a good audio, and come up on the meter as a 'dig me' <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=""> it's hard to pin them down for what they are, because as you say, they are not all uniform in size (or shape) or orientation in the ground. Consequently, it's pretty much impossible to pin them down on the I.D meter, as they can (and do) show themselves in quite a broad range of target numbers. To try to ignore them would mean you would be missing lots of wanted tagets like coins and such. Over here, the big pain in the butt for us is shotgun cartridge caps, and also small 'ointment tubes' as used by farmers on their sheep! we HAVE TO dig them, chances are it's a tube or a cap, but the one you ignore might just be a silver coin that's giving an ID number that falls into the same range of target ID numbers as the shotgun caps / ointment tubes / screwcaps <img src="/metal/html/frown.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt="">