deleon and cortes:ausflag:

[blowfly1967]

i was wondering if tesoro's deleon and cortes were tesoro's answer to minelab's x terra 50 and x terra 70 respectively.another thought just crossed my mind"monte" if you read this post what sort detector do you use and why?if you think i'm to nosey no problem? i just like to read and understand. thanks blowfly hh

 

[dan b]

The Cortes and the Deleon are older than Minelab's offerings, so maybe it's the other way around! Tesoro is facing some stiff competition in the TID market. Unless they can come up with a new model that matches the features of the Xterra and Fishers, they may be relegated to be the manufacturers of the best "beep and dig" machines.

Dan

 

[Corteser]

The Cortes and Deleon are 2000-2001 technology the X series from Minelab have only been out for a couple of years. It is actually a testament to the quality of Tesoro that the Cortes and Deleon are even able to be compared to the newer machines. Much has changed in technology in the last 8 or 9 years and yet my Cortes still holds it own well against these newer machines.

That said, it is well past time for Tesoro to deliver an up-to-date TID machine that will compete with the best of Minelab, Whites, etc. I have been patiently waiting for a new machine from Tesoro, but I must admit that my patience is getting thin.

 

[Monte]

i was wondering if tesoro's deleon and cortes were tesoro's answer to minelab's x terra 50 and x terra 70 respectively.

[size=large]... Not even close. The Tesoro models had been out for a few years before Minelab released their X-Terra series. The X-Terra's have manual GB that is tied to the Discriminate mode. The X-T 50 is manual GB, and the X-T 70 has automatic GB and auto-track in addition to manual GB. There are other pronounced differences.

If you look at the market, as well as the features, the suggested retail prices, it's not too difficult to see that Tesoro is not even close to keeping up with the competition. Not when it comes to Target ID models. believe me, I am not anti-Tesoro, I just have to give credit where it is due, and that also means some have to take their lumps when they offer something that just doesn't cut it. I hunt bad ground sites. Playgrounds with mineralized pea gravel. Black sand river beaches. Local dirt that's a bit challenging, and some high desert ghost towns that have uglier iron mineralization that I have around here! I NEED to have a unit in hand that provides me with operator control over the GB setting to function well in BOTH an All Metal mode AND a motion Discriminate mode.

Tesoro has been making decent silent-search motion Discriminators since they introduced the Inca in '83. However, for the most part, their efforts to make and market a decent model with target ID has been a failure, especially when you compare the suggested retail of their offerings to others on the market during the same era. If Tesoro doesn't engineer a first rate Target ID detector soon, I don't see them staying with all the competition out there.[/size]

another thought just crossed my mind"monte" if you read this post what sort detector do you use and why?if you think i'm to nosey no problem? i just like to read and understand. thanks.

[size=large]... I don't mind answering that at all. I own and use a few detectors. keeping in mind that there is no single 'perfect' do-all detector, and since I like to enjoy a variety of hunting applications, I need to have at least two (2) and often three or four (3 or 4) detectors on hand to tackle different challenges.

My 'cruising' detector is a White's XLT. I consider it my 'cruising' unit because due to its design (a 4-filter type circuit) I can sweep it at a moderate to fast pace w/o drastically impairing performance. I live in NW Oregon and many sites I hunt here, as well as in Nevada, Utah, Idaho and other places, have rather high mineralization. In such sites, most 2 filter types might work OK, but not when swept fast. As a matter of fact, in true "bad ground" a 2-filter design, like Tesoro uses, NEEDS to be swept at a slow pace or you can have terrible results.

Additionally, I like the information the XLT provides, and the operator control over some functions. It should be trimmed down as it has too many adjustment features, any of which ought not to be adjusted, or very little if they are, because you can mess up the performance. The factory stock 950 coil is mounted on a spare lower rod for those times when I want to use it for a wide-open site, such as a football field, rodeo grounds, beach, or plowed field. I seldom use the 950 coil, or most any standard-issue coil, preferring to go with a smaller-than-stock coil. My XLT generally has a 6

 

[Michigan Badger]

you could be so...ah...direct

You always seemed like such a mellow fellow

 

[marcomo]

Hey Monte, I talked to James Gifford today.

After finishing talking to him about the business of my detector, I asked him to please let me know when Tesoro comes out with a new TID detector.

He laughed and said not to worry, when it comes out he'll be "shouting from the rooftops" and that hopefully it shouldn't be too long.

 

[blowfly1967]

thanks once again monte for pampering a nosey old fool.i really appreciate the time and effort you put out to help us all. hoo roo see ya blowfly hh

 

[Monte]

and be shouting ABOUT it and not AT IT!

Just this morning I was working a renovation site. The type I have enjoyed hunting for years and have favored both White's and Tesoro's for those tasks the most. But I also have applications where I enjoy having visual TID and would have been just as pleased if I had a new Tesoro Target ID model in my hand when I got the 1898 Barber 10