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Definition of Trashy Area

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Hi Guys,
What do you guys think of when you imagine a really trashy area? For me, a trashy area is one where you have no threshhold, there are constant targets, and sometimes constant null. I imagine that if I were to attempt to collect an area such as this that I would search for repeatable signals only. In addition, to me, this would be an area that no matter what you adjust your SEN to, you would still have almost no threshold. Does this match your definition of a trashy area that the XS is supposed to kick tail in? Or am I thinking about attempting an area that is way too trashy for any machine?
Thanks, Mike
 
That sound very trashy and the only way I would try such a area is with the 5 inch coil of Sunrays and run a lower sensitivity as you would want good target seperation. The stock coil I think would be almost worthless in such a area if trash is that bad.
I have been working in a area that is full of rusty nails and other pieces of iron and alum and I have got a few pieces of silver and older coins, but I realy have to go slow with the X5 coil and try to listen to each tone and get it to repeat. The stock coil was one big null and had a hard time getting a dime on top of the ground, but the X5 has been doing OK.
Rick
 
I would say that's very trashy and I have encountered one such area like that! We only spent about 40 mins there and it's an old home site were no one lives. I have an X-1 on the way for my new Exp II and Then I was going to head back out there with my Joey and X-5 and try it again!
A thought just occured to me why not take your X-1 probe Everyone has said it is like a 1" size metal detector! and just over over the ground hehe just kidding that would take forever!! But you could really sperate them <IMG SRC="/forums/images/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":)">
Mike
 
Hey Rick,
Thanks for the info. I was using a 7.5 inch minelab coil in an area where the targets were about 3 or 4 inches away from each other. I was going slow (1 foot per second) and had very rare times of threshold occurrence. The threshold would return very rarely. My manual sensitivity was 10. The signals that were repeating all were nails when I dug them up. It sounds like you are saying that I should turn down manual sensitivity until I get intermittant threshold. Is that what you are saying? I also understand you to be indicating that if I turn my sensitivity down and if I still have almost no threshold, then I should try a smaller coil. Is this correct? If it is, then I feel I have an understanding of what a workable trashy area is, and what a non-workable trashy area is. I understand that a non-workable trashy area is one where no matter what coil I use, and how low I adjust manual sensitivity, I still get almost no threshold. My goal is to determine which trashy areas I should avoid and which trashy areas my XS and I can handle. Let me know if I am understanding this criteria correctly.
Thanks!
Mike
 
Hey Brian,
What does N/T mean? No Trash?
Just Curious,
Mike
 
it's automatically done in the posting to let people know that there is no text following the subject line you see....HH Bri
 
or a pattern? I generally run iron mask even if theres quite a but of non ferrous trash around.. if your in a pattern you will be nulling no matter what size coil or sensitivity, at least over any targets that are disc'ed out.. If there are that many non ferrous targets, then yes a smaller coil will help, also try just using a pattern where the top of the screen is open starting about 1/4 inch from the left and open the screen 1/4 inch from the top till you get about a half inch from the right of the screen then open the top right in about a half inch square.. ignore any nulling and hunt slow.. you might miss a few good targets this way, but at least you wont go nuts with tones, and you can still pick off any silver coins.. also use ferrous mode in this pattern, in case theres lots of iron trash as well
 
Hey Jim,
Yea, I was using iron mask -10 and listening to conductive sounds. I saved your response to my computer. Thanks alot!
Mike
 
Mike,
Let us know how it goes using ferrous sounds in Iron Mask. I have been wanting to try this for a couple of weeks since I saw Jim suggest it, unfortunately, work has been keeping me from detecting. Hopefully I will get out this weekend, because I am off to Phoenix on business next week.
 
Mike no threshold is nulling and nulling is caused by items rejected, so at a -10 you still are rejecting alot of iron. you may be better off going to a -14 and it may be a bit noiser and going to ferrous sounds as that iron will be a low tone. 1 foot a second is not slow for a area such as this, I go even slower as you want to hear all the targets and by wiggleing over them to see if they are good or bad. You still will dig some iron that is questionable.
Nulling is OK to a certain extent as you know there is rejected target here. you know you have to go slower to hear the good targets and with a lower iron mask and less sensitivity makes it easier to hear the good targets next to trash. If the nulling is too bad than a smaller coil needs to be used. I have used the 5 inch coil more this year then before and found areas that is solid trash and yet still can pick out a few good targets, some with nails right on top of the coins.
If you do want to try a disc pattern like Jim says it too will work, but you may have to go even slower yet if a lot of trash. I have this pattern saved and one I use a lot in area full of pulltabs.
Rick
 
I can't wait to get the X-1 Probe and see if it's as good as most say it is <IMG SRC="/forums/images/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":)">
 
Hey Rick,
Thankyou for your expert help. My plan is to use your advice to develop a second mode of operation for trashy areas. I will be doing some experimentation with it over the next couple of weeks.
Mike
 
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