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deeper older coins???

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I am starting to do good with my recognition of coins in iron mask and disc, but I am hunting in a fairgrounds with a lot of grassy area(lawn type). I can distinguish the coins (most of the time) from the trash, that is the newer closer coins, although I did get two dimes (1942,1943) at about 4 to 6 inches. But I am really having problems with the deeper stuff. I get a good ringing high sound and sometimes it is weak but still a good "possible" and sometimes the crosshairs move around, but the sound sometimes is clear and usually a crosshair in upper right or high right with only half showing BUT I just cannot get a good clear pinpoint, either I get two or three pinpoint sounds close together as I sweep or i pick up several PP sounds near the tone. I go out of PP hold the detector out and come back to PP and try again and I get a fair sound with maybe only a double weak pinpoint but then I start picking up several sounds again nearby. I just get frustrated and I will stay on it for 15 or 20 minutes. Sometimes when I think I get a "fair" pinpoint and the depth is indicating about 8"s,I will dig, but I still seem to head for china. I will get up several times and try to resound and PP but sometimes the PP has moved or I get a clear center PP and I dig deeper with no results. Maybe I am just going to have to dig everything and hope for the best and learn from there but if anyone has any pointers that may help it would be greatly appreciated. I did find a 1942 dime under a metal lid, but the lid was giving me a good ring, it was just that I always recheck the area after I find junk and the dime was there. It was a nice sound after I had it exposed a bit. I have listened to the sounds on the links and looked at and have tried the suggestions I am getting so I know I need lots more experience but I WILL learn this dude. I am sure this park is a gold mine if I can get to the deeper coins, I just dont think it was hunted much at all because it is a State Fair park and at the time in the 40's there were a lot of screw caps and later a lot of pull tabs and some beer cans and most of the hunters had the older machines and just gave up because of the amount of junk, now I can get past most of that and get down to the good coins if I can figure how to recognize them and get at least a fair pinpoint. I know it hasn't been worked much because I dug about 30 coins yesterday so there is a lot of good stuff just waiting. I just don't want to dig a big hole here because I am sure if the manager saw me digging anything of size he would make me quit even though I am careful to save the dirt and plug and fix the damage, it still looks horrible as a person is digging, especially in a nice looking lawn and there is a big pile of dirt. Thanks for any suggestions and as always your help is greatly appreciated and valued. Ken
 
Ken
I have found the Stealth X-8 coil helped a bunch in the trash as you've described, especially in pinpoint. Also a life-saver has been the X-1 probe, which will individually ferret out all those sounds, with discrimination & less craters!
Bob
 
I understand they are good tools, Just have to pay for this SX before I add more toys, Guess I will have to dig a lot of junk, so by the time I can afford the 8" and X1 I will have my ear tuned, thanks for the help, KW
 
Hi Ken, I never had a crosshair that overshoots
the screen boundry that ever turned out to be
any good, infact I was hunting at the beach this
morning & dug several of thoes, turned out to be flatten bottlecaps in the parking lot. Sounded
almost exactly like the quarters but the crosshairs would overshoot the upper right corner.
Needless to say I nolonger dug those, & as you know the quarters fit the upper right corner
perfectly.
I might sugest you try to do the wiggle over
those iffy signals, useually the crosshairs
settle down quite abit.
One other thing, don't try to run the power too
high, causes lots of instability. Sometimes you
may be able to use more power depending on
conditiuns. One thing to keep in mind, in my
test garded. my Explorer on a setting of 17 out
performs my buddies Whites 6000, depth wise.
Tells me I'm capeable of deeper coins than he
at this medium power.
Sorry for the rambling,
I use only manuel by the way & a big trick is
learning how much power is most effective.
 
jg, I will try that, what do you mean power, is that the sensitivity setting, if it is I have been running at 22, or what do I adjust as power, Thanks Ken
 
Just wondering if there is a lot of difference in machines or if it is ground conditions but almost every piece of silver I have dug only leaves 1/4 of the cross on the screen. Now clad for me especially quarters leaves the whole cross hair in the upper right. Is this the same for others?
 
Yes sensitivity' I usually try to keep a threshold
if I can. Sometimes trash or ground minerals keeps
the threshold silent, if so turn the sensitivity
down, if you still can't get a thershold then slow
way, way, down. It will suprise you what you can
sometimes find, but must be slow.
Too much sensitivity & the trash will mask your
coins like the detector book I once read said
like highbeam in the fog, you can see better on
low beam. Practice, practice, determine's how much
sensitivity should be used. HH....jim
 
Just wondering if anyone elses xs's crosshairs goes off the screen for silver?
 
Yes, off to the very top right. I use a silver coins only pattern and this is the area that silver coins and the likes seem to usually and almost exclusivly "put" the cross hair.
Also I get a very "soild" high tone when running with THE AUDIO, SOUNDS in FERROUS or CONDUCT options (I prefer to use mostly the FERROUS option).
DAVE DI
 
The top half of the crosshairs will, so on silver dime you will see the bottom half of the crosshairs and on a Silver quarter it will be just the botom left of the crosshairs you will see (1/4 of the crosshair) as the rest will be off the screen.
Rick
 
Hmmm.
I know what you mean about not wanting to leave craters.
My personal solution is a Periscope from Ott Technologies LLC. The 'scope allows me to locate the target precisely, even if it's surrounded by junk. I can dig one narrow hole, or even use a screwdriver to pop it out. The standard 'scope probe is 14" long, and Jim will make a longer one for you if you feel you need it.
I use the 'scope for all my hunting: it works with all my machines. The Explorer is the only one that interferes with it substantially: I have to turn the Exp. off when probing for a deep target. I consider this a minor inconvenience compared to the advantage that the 'scope gives me.
On a side note: I haven't used Ralph's X1 probe, so I'm not able to comment on it. I do have one of his Superchargers, however, and I really like that!! as well as an Explorer stand. I consider both of those eventual must-have accessories for the machine.
Louis
 
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