Hello everyone, been hitting some very old sites(park,church) the last couple weeks and have not found that deep silver! To be honest I'm not sure exactly what I should be listening for and how the e-trac should be set up. I would consider these sights difficult and semi trashy. I have found shallow silver coins at these sights so I know theres deep silver there too. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks ........j.b.
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DEEP WHISPERS?
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Southwind
Well-known member
Myself I run in auto +3 conductive sound multi-tones Deep = off fast = off.
I don't really get what you would call "whispers" on the deep coins but more of a broken or single direction high tone. It is the same sound you would get on the shallower coins but just broken a bit or not repeatable from all directions. I've also noticed the CO numbers read a bit lower. A wheat at say 7-8" will read a CO of 40 to 44 but I often get them reading as low as 35 to 39 when really deep.
I don't really get what you would call "whispers" on the deep coins but more of a broken or single direction high tone. It is the same sound you would get on the shallower coins but just broken a bit or not repeatable from all directions. I've also noticed the CO numbers read a bit lower. A wheat at say 7-8" will read a CO of 40 to 44 but I often get them reading as low as 35 to 39 when really deep.
i second the deep off and fast off most of the time.
really old sites iv hunted with deep rusted iron i do like fast on and Manuel sens over 22 with response set on long tone. reason i say 22 is that some of use guys here did a test a few years back to see if a high sense would separate better and it did in test. do a search here for (trashy park test) and here is a link to one tread about it http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,946141,947736#msg-947736
as far as deep whispers well there just that whispers that still sound like a coin. dont worry about were they read on screen on the co fe numbers as much. iv had deep pennies read as low as tabs and iv had deep nickels read as high as pennies and all up and down on the fe but they always tend to have a round sound. if there near iron or masked then you just may hear a tink or faint beep way down there and from only one little spot in the null.
what it comes down to after all this reading is just dig dig dig till you understand. many have asked this ? and no one has ever been able to explain it in a way that really makes others understand. i didnt get it till i found a site loaded with deep iron but not much other trash. down in that deep iron there was coins. it was just at the edge of detection with the stock coil. . and that is when the deep coin sounds clicked with me.
so good luck and have fun out there. here is some on the deep iron and coins http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,959635,959902#msg-959902
really old sites iv hunted with deep rusted iron i do like fast on and Manuel sens over 22 with response set on long tone. reason i say 22 is that some of use guys here did a test a few years back to see if a high sense would separate better and it did in test. do a search here for (trashy park test) and here is a link to one tread about it http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,946141,947736#msg-947736
as far as deep whispers well there just that whispers that still sound like a coin. dont worry about were they read on screen on the co fe numbers as much. iv had deep pennies read as low as tabs and iv had deep nickels read as high as pennies and all up and down on the fe but they always tend to have a round sound. if there near iron or masked then you just may hear a tink or faint beep way down there and from only one little spot in the null.
what it comes down to after all this reading is just dig dig dig till you understand. many have asked this ? and no one has ever been able to explain it in a way that really makes others understand. i didnt get it till i found a site loaded with deep iron but not much other trash. down in that deep iron there was coins. it was just at the edge of detection with the stock coil. . and that is when the deep coin sounds clicked with me.
so good luck and have fun out there. here is some on the deep iron and coins http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,959635,959902#msg-959902
Hi
What rbholt80 says about long makes good sense ...
A friend down here in OZ is a silver magnet (200+ silvers this year )and has been pulling some really deep ones
He swears by Audio Response LONG
He says on the whispery ones it highlights their signal
I am about to join him and try it also
T59
What rbholt80 says about long makes good sense ...
A friend down here in OZ is a silver magnet (200+ silvers this year )and has been pulling some really deep ones
He swears by Audio Response LONG
He says on the whispery ones it highlights their signal
I am about to join him and try it also
T59
thats funny to me because my last detector was a 6000 di Pro also....and there is no comparison....the E-Trac is superior. I loved it (the 6000) and i always will but...i would never want to detect with it again. Also, the DD coil is SO much better than the 8" concentric coil....it feels like im covering 5 times as much ground with each sweep.....and another thing i love is that i dont have to "whip" the coil around to get any depth. im getting too old for that. that guy had some other kind of motive, the two detectors are not comparible and im pretty good with both of them. well let me say great with one and getting a lot better with the other. 9 silvers in the last two weekends!
tippyhound
New member
Southwind said:
I to run in the Auto +3 Multi Tone with Deep =Off Fast =On. I prefer Fast on because a lot of the areas I hunt have a lot of close trash and I need the better separation.
Like in the post above I find that deep coins 8 + inch's will read both low FE and Co numbers. I have found many preteen Wheat's that read FE 01 to 08 and CO 35 to 38.
I found a 9" deep Standing Liberty Quarter that read like a Silver Dime FE 11-12 CO 43-45. I found a Seated Liberty Dime at 9" that read FE11-12 CO 38-40. I don't go so much by FE CO numbers as I do by tones. If I have the correct tones and the depth I dig all those targets. As far as Deep Whispers to date none of my finds have been whispers. I get a good clear loud response no matter the depth. Sometimes I get one sided or broken signals but checking my Quick Mask will normally help me decide whether to dig or not in those situations. The E-trac has proven to be agreat machine no matter how or where I hunt. Rick IL
Goldmanjace
New member
So how do you tell the Iron from the coins when using conduct and multi tone without using the screen?
ryanchappell
New member
I can't believe that you guys had this entire conversation without even considering geography and mineralization. I guess it doesn't matter to 70% of the country because you are in mild to medium mineralization, and the E-Trac handles it fine! But for those of us that live next to major iron ore veins in red clay, it matters a lot! Any coin of over 3 inches starts jumping around like you guys are mentioning at 9 inches.
Any way where do you live? State? Region? Be as vague as you want while still giving an idea. I live in central Alabama.
What is it with this forum not having everyones location in the heading anyway? Real annoying!!!
Any way where do you live? State? Region? Be as vague as you want while still giving an idea. I live in central Alabama.
What is it with this forum not having everyones location in the heading anyway? Real annoying!!!
If its iron falsing the target will seem to move around, and will seem be on the edge of the "real" target, a peice of iron. So the "false" target will seem to move around. A "real" iffy target will not do that. It will seem to be in the same spot as you circle the target. In my short time swinging a etrac this is what ive noticed. real targets are fairly repeatable in tone and dont move around. I tried playing around with fast on and fast off in my test garden and honestly i couldnt see much difference , but these are all on fairly deep targets. 6-7" or so. i get "dig me" sounds though, and im learning that that is what i need to rely on. cant trust the numbers much on deep coins.