Deep = On or Deep = Off or Fast = On or Fast = Off?

[Tony N (Michigan)]

I have a question for you folks.
On my Explorers I usually hunt in Deep = On and Fast = Off, unless I am detecting a relatively trashy site.

I would imagine the same is the case with the E-Trac?
Do some of you just leave Fast = On and Deep = Off and still do really well on deep targets?

 

[cz70pro]

I usually have to hunt high trash or high iron sites and will generally run it with Deep OFF and Fast ON. If I am in a very clean site with little trash or iron I will run it with both OFF. Doesn't happen very often though.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

I usually have to hunt high trash or high iron sites and will generally run it with Deep OFF and Fast ON. If I am in a very clean site with little trash or iron I will run it with both OFF. Doesn't happen very often though.

Thanks cz70pro,
Why do you run both off in a clean site? Why not DEEP on to get deeper?
Tony

 

[EtracTom-AdirondacksNY]

No Deep on only gets the id numbers to smooth out some on the really really deep targets supposedly. I don't see it though.

If you want really deep you need to set your Volume GAIN to 29 or30 it makes the extremely deepies sing out so you can hear them to know there are there. A moderator on the Explorer spot on here tested that theory out and it was proven to work. Anything lower and he didn't hear some targets that were really deep.

I run with Gain on 30 and Fast on or off for the previous trashy spots stated.

Also Trash High mostly or occasionally Trash Normal if free of too many trashy targets. Ground Difficult always unless it's a beach type sand situation even if that is encountered in the sandy spots in the woods.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

No Deep on only gets the id numbers to smooth out some on the really really deep targets supposedly. I don't see it though.

If you want really deep you need to set your Volume GAIN to 29 or30 it makes the extremely deepies sing out so you can hear them to know there are there. A moderator on the Explorer spot on here tested that theory out and it was proven to work. Anything lower and he didn't hear some targets that were really deep.

I run with Gain on 30 and Fast on or off for the previous trashy spots stated.

Also Trash High mostly or occasionally Trash Normal if free of too many trashy targets. Ground Difficult always unless it's a beach type sand situation even if that is encountered in the sandy spots in the woods.

Thanks EtracTom!
Much appreciated! I'll try those settings.
I know some like less Gain to audibly separate the deepies from the not-so-deepies.

 

[sd51]

Tony,

Also, set your Volume Limit to 30 and turn the volume down using the adjustment knob on your headphones. I set the Volume gain to 26 or 27. I keep Recovery Deep ON and Recovery Fast OFF. I haven't tried this yet but was told to run with the Pitch Hold for the Audio Response setting.

 

[Goes4ever]

here is an article I wrote for my website, you may find interesting:

Coin garden testing with Etrac and SEF 6x8 coil
Ok tonite I spent some more time testing.........I was using the etrac and had on my 6x8 SEF coil

the coin garden was set up 4 yrs ago and coins are at a measured 7.5" and as on large plastic plates to prevent turning, sinking etc.

I started in auto +3 (etrac was at 19) and I could hit on them but barely, so I flipped it in to manual 19 and it screamed out on the coins easily, so i backed it off to 18, 17, 16, and still could hit them, when I went to 15 it could still hit on the quarter but struggled out a kerthunk over the dime and penny.

I tried fast on, fast off, deep on, deep off....tried them BOTH ON at once, but OFF at once. And still I am convinced that Fast ON and deep OFF gives the best most consistent readings, I passed over these targets over and over and over........

I tried difficult ground, normal etc.....did not seem to affect readings good or bad,

then I tried smooth response, long, and normal. Smooth works and sounds GREAT on the deep targets but real crappy on shallow targets, seems like it would be VERY hard to pinpoint shallow targets in smooth, Long was horrible to me regardless. I still prefer normal.

From my testing on sensitivity manual of 19 with the 6x8 coil is every bit as powerful as 24 when using auto +3, that was a little shock to me, signal in 19 manual was more clear and crisp than 24 in auto +3. So if your in an area and can ONLY get manual 19, trust me it goes pretty DEEP
Yes hard to believe, so i tried it over and over and over....lol

So from this test I decided that I am gonna do something that is have MORE confidence in using my 6x8 coil in yards, not being worried I will miss deep coins. Because my coin garden has only been there 4 yrs, I can imagine how much better a coin will sound out if it has been there 75-100 yrs. But just with 19 manual I should safely be able to detect 80% of the coins in my area, most oldies here are 5-7" range. And I should be able to push it to 22-24 manual in most yards without trouble, in case there are some real deepies.

And I also decided that the current setting I am using are still the BEST for ME in MY soil in MY area.....maybe not in your area but for me, deep OFF and Fast ON and normal response is what I choose to stay with.

Hope this was not too boring of a read for you all.

 

[IDXMonster]

Good article Terry. I find EXACTLY the same regarding sensivity with the CTX... I don't bother going higher than 22 manual when coin hunting,higher just means more noise. I can use 22,21,20,19....when it hits 18 my 9" Test Merc drops off badly. 17 and it's gone. This is with the 11" coil. My Test Merc has only been buried a few MONTHS so it's just acting as a baseline for the purpose of determining at what points the sens adjustment is too much or not enough.