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cz7a tuning & tones

jerry demas

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I have acquired a cz-7a pro quick silver and want to know how to properly adjust it. A real big benefit would to be able to hear a sample of the tones it makes and associate them with the material being detected.

Does any one make a instructional DVD like this. Or a web site that would have sound samples on it?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks Jerry
 
Well the detector is only three tones!
Iron, (Low Tone)
Tabs, nickles, most Gold (maybe zinc) (Mid Tone)
Silver and most of the other US coins (High Tone)

Some like to run the discrimination LOW and run the sensitivity as high as you can and the detector still run stable!.

But if you want to hear the different tones just air test it with a small iron taret (small hex nut), a nickle, and a US copper penny of quarter.

The CZ's are really an easy machine to run.

And if you don't have a manual for it you can find them online for download!

Mark
 
Jerry,
Nickle ID's should go high tone too. Even though nickles lay between the foil and tab ranges in conductivity, the detector, in standard factory tune, is designed to go high tone on a nickle ID.
tvr
 
tvr said:
Jerry,
Nickle ID's should go high tone too. Even though nickles lay between the foil and tab ranges in conductivity, the detector, in standard factory tune, is designed to go high tone on a nickle ID.
tvr
Opps! forgot about that!
But nickles in the ground will many times still fall into the tabs zone, so nickles can be very hard to correctly ID even though the CZ-7 puts them in the upper range of the metering scale, they just don't always land their and many times those tabs will read in the nickle zone. Bottom line, nickles are still going to be a problem.

Mark
 
I have one. A very deep machine. It's a really good relic machine being rain proof. It's that deep you will be digging stuff off of a china mans feet.
 
Have to disagree as might be the most accurate jefferson nickle unit on the market...unfortunately early nickles such as buffalo, shield, V..usually come in lower and may do a foil to nickle bounce..

You say CZ7A so assume its the rod mount only which is the best weighted and ergonomic CZ model with batteries under the armcup that give 80 plus hours.

Second Digital CZ so its been around for a while and never seemed to sell well as most wanted a hipmount.

Tones are low(iron) mid( foil and tabs)high Nickles along with all the high coinage from indian heads to a dollar and most high denomination gold coins. Early Indiand heads(fatties) may come in square tab.

The secret to a CZ is swing it slow and accurately ground balance it using the bobbing method explained in manual but make sure volume and sens. are at 10 when balancing so you can hear the audio plainly and can always lower these parameters after balance...should be able to run sens at about 6 for optimum depth and volume 4 and under modulated audio and 6 to 10 audio will be loud to clearly hear the deepies..

Probably speaking Greek to you right now but once in hand and you read the manual am sure there are some videos on the net with audio sounds but once you receive it will be easy to distinguish as they are all 3 quite different audio tones..
 
Dan-Pa. said:
Have to disagree as might be the most accurate Jefferson nickle unit on the market...unfortunately early nickles such as buffalo, shield, V..usually come in lower and may do a foil to nickle bounce..

You say CZ7A so assume its the rod mount only which is the best weighted and ergonomic CZ model with batteries under the armcup that give 80 plus hours.

Look back at the title post!

First Line From Title Post said:
I have acquired a cz-7a pro quick silver

He stated that he has a cz-7a Pro, and not the cz-7a with the batteries under the arm cup. The one he has uses two 9 volt batteries and is hip mountable!
Yes, its pretty deep, but where I live and in that type of soil the depth isn't anything to write home about, 7" to the outside of 8" is about it for coin size targets!

The one I have had for a number of years doesn't know the difference between a Jefferson and a buffalo nickle and if a pull-tab is laying in the right direction it will hit the nickle zone! But, I believe that area soil has to play into that as well. Now, I will say that if you work the machine right and work at it you will dig a little more nickle than with a lot of other machines.


When the CZ-7a Pro first came out it came with,
A hard case!
A hip or chest mount clip!
And a chest mount harness!
It was a package deal!

Buy the time many of the CZ-7a Pro's hit the used market the extra stuff ended up missing for some reason????? One reason I believe was the extra stuff was nice but VERY few people used it. The stuff added to the effects of the deal but was lost in the real function of land hunters!

Mark
 
On the post header he stated CZ7A so just assumed and my bad so disreguard the info on a CZ7A which is the rodmount..
 
So the real question was adjusting it and is there a video or recording of sounds. I am not sure if there is a video out that lets you listen to a CZ's tones. I have not searched for an on-line video. There may be one that someone posted. So lets do some set up and testing to hear things.

It was already mentioned about reading the manual and ground balancing. I use the bobbing method in autotune just like the manual explains it.

From there set the controls like the manual suggests for a starting point. Get an iron nail, make sure it isn't plated so it shows up as iron; a plated nail may show up mid-tone. Get a small piece of foil, a gum wrapper works, some tabs of more than one shape and size if you can find an assortment. Get a penny, nickle dime and a quarter.

With the detector, find a spot on the ground that does not have targets. Lay the sample targets you have on the ground, either one at a time or all down, but spaced apart enough that you can swing the coil over just one target at a time.

Like Dan-Pa mentioned, sweep slow. Can sweep fast and find things but not as deep and not with an accurate ID. Fast sweep also masks more good targets. Practice will help you learn how the detector reacts at differing swing speeds.

I'd change from the preset (coins mode) to accept all, no notches in discrimination mode and listen to the tones on all targets.

Then you can listen to tones on all the test targets and they won't be notched out.

On the nail, a low tone. Try sweeping fast over the nail. Iron can go high tone when you sweep fast. Does this more when you sweep across the length of the nail. Try it and see how it responds. If your nail doesn't go high tone with a fast sweep, see if you can find a slightly bigger nail and try it again. Most iron nails, more so when they get rusty, bounce to high tone with a fast sweep. Slow the sweep down to get low tone and you are learning about figuring out what the detector tells you.

Try the other targets. Some nickle mid to high tone bounces can be gold, or foil or tabs. some low to mid-tone bounces can be foil or gold. At the beach I dig every low to mid tone bounce.

My CZ's don't have notches, I've got the older CZ versions On the detectors that I have that have notches, I don't use them. I prefer to take in all the details and use the information presented by the detector and how I sweep the target to make the dig or don't dig decision.

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
tvr

PS ... with the three tones, there is enough separation between the tones that you should be able to hear the three tones and learn them pretty quickly. You do need to not notch anything to hear all three tones. Low tone is iron, and the rest have been talked about in this thread.
 
I have the cz7a the deepest coin machine out there.I have found hundreds of nickles many buffalo. Its all in the sound junk that reads nickle always breaks up slightly a nickle will not break up not even at 10 - 12 inches.I now have been trying out my new O8 my cz7a will always be close by.
 
Get Tom Dankowski DVD (Inland Coin & Relic Hunting) DVD. He is also known as Nasa Tom
I have been using a CZ for many years and still picked up some good pointers from this DVD.
He uses a CZ exclusively in this Video
I'm sure you can order it from his website
HH, Tico
 
I'm excited to use mine. I just won one from the large internet auction site and have been mentally preparing for it. Will be a leap ahead for me since I was the casual Bounty Hunter-er and recently picked up a White's Classic 3 last Summer (both of which I'll have to sell to help compensate the funds for this one!).
 
That CZ7A is a great machine. It was the detector that I used back about 15 years ago before I left the hobby. I got the itch to get another detector and just bought a F70 and so far like it very well but that CZ7a served me very well and I really enjoyed it.
 
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