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CZ6a fine tune

Does this detector need fine-tuning from time to time, in order to achieve Maximum depth and performance?
If so, can one do it himself, or have to send it back to manufacturer (First Texas?)?

thanks

Ken
 
Sounds like you may have a good handle on it, Everett.

Care to walk us through it?

I would very much like to learn what needs to be done.

Thank you
rmptr
 
As you may do more harm than good..I believe Everett hit the nail on the head and and does have the ability to do as he has worked with CZ's. Certainly not the for the novice
and unless your unit really was not operating correctly don't fix what aint broke..If you feel it needs adjustment certainly the manufacturer has the Tech's and equipment to do so and maybe the time to contact Fisher...
 
Thank you !
 
Of course Everett knows what he is doing with test equipment and would not advise a novice to open the unit as they may or may not do more harm than good...
 
I'm now very close to being convinced that electrons flow in some indiscriminate semblance of a path which may only be controlled by dark and mysterious initiates of occult voodoo rituals bound by blood oath not to divulge any precise information to mortals of average intelligence who wish to improve their means by learning.

Quite possibly among the reasons why 92% of all electronic good are manufactured in a land speaking a foreign tongue, even though they were invented in usa... No worries about letting the hocus pocus out of the bag.

I shouldn't be concerned. Perhaps next week we'll be able to broadband our needed repairs to the subcontinent.
Well, if the rest of the airtransport fleet doesn't go belly up, first...

Horsefeathers.

rmptr
 
Just taking one apart you may damage its weather resistant integrity and taking the steps if you knew them without proper testing equipment one goof up in the procedure you may be going backwards and do more harm than good. My posts were made in good faith lest someone damages their unit or perhaps makes it less effective because of untrained hands entering it. I guess thats why we have Tech's and again if I felt my unit was not working correctly would contact a local Fisher dealer for his expertise and if applicable send it into Fisher and let the pros work on it...
 
maybe he speak with "forked tongue!"

(h.h!)
j.t.
 
Well, Dan, I gave it some thought...

"Just taking one apart you may damage its weather resistant integrity and taking the steps if you knew them without

proper testing equipment one goof up in the procedure you may be going backwards and do more harm than good."

By golly that is absolutely correct.
My CZ-6 employs a red spongy rubber type gasket beneath the faceplate, and it could indeed have stuck to one side or the
other, in part, when I popped it out of it's case. Gaskets are frequently sacrificial in all sorts of repair work, and I doubt
the same material could be readily purchased, yet with a little searching, a satisfactory substitute could be found, and the
process of fabricating an acceptible duplicate could begin, using an exacto blade and a straight edge.
However, a thinly applied bead of RTV, allowed to cure completely, before engaging, would most likely suffice, since our
goal is not to be waterproof, but to be somewhat splash resistant.

Sure, some of the trimmer caps are possibly frozen in position, since we're talking about a machine that's probably 15yrs
old, or more... Judicious application of compressed air, or use of a heat gun can remedy those situations, if a very light
tapping won't dislodge possible corrosion from salt air. Otherwise, we're back to a solvent of some sort. Xylene or
acetone applied with the end of a toothpick could be enough to save the day.

I've found that a bit of warmed vegetable oil may ease the release of a stuck gasket. It's possible to warm it in a
tablespoon, that has set on an electric stove element, then draw some up in a syringe for application.
Gasoline may also break loose a gummed gasket, when applied with a syringe, if you're a bolder sort.

Appropriate tools are a requisite.
I'd hazard a guess that many of those beepers out there have at least a passing interest in electronics that would exceed
the level found in your ordinary swash buckler pirate of a modern day treasure hunter. After all, they did spend the big
bucks on an electronic tool! They may already have a digital multimeter. A scope or old LCR bridge are going pretty
cheap on the bay, these days of throw away electronics. What else are we gonna need? A small precision soldering
station, an old Eico grid dip meter, an swr analyzer from Ramsey?

Not a problem, for any number of intetelligent people looking to make improvements in the scheme of things.
It's easy enough to purchase the tools, I've got 'em by the ton.
(I just had to tape a magnet to a dowel, so I could reach across the garage, over a pile of tools, to grab a bolt from my bolt
bin, if you can believe that level of ridiculous!)

Basic use of electronic test equipment isn't so difficult, yet the fine points do require an education... or guidance, to
accomplish a specific task.

Schematics seem to be problematic, in the competitive world of metal detector manufacturing...
It's not like we can grab a copy of Sam's and go to work.
Yet, if a knowledgeable fellow is available, who might enjoy educating others, and thus improving the world around

himself, wouldn't that be a good thing? I very much enjoy being around smart people... one less thing to worry about!
But that's not to say you won't find me in the company of corsairs, buccaneers, and freebooters, from time to time!

"My posts were made in good faith lest someone damages their unit or perhaps makes it less effective because of
untrained hands entering it."

Of course you meant well. I accused no one of malice!
The fellow expressed interest, and asked for guidance, if the tech had been amenable to such. Apparently he wasn't.

...And I've been advised by a competent fellow, that the most common causes to discover a metal detector in the pawn
shop are divorce, and someone twiddling inside the case... LoL

"I guess thats why we have Tech's and again if I felt my unit was not working correctly would contact a local Fisher dealer
for his expertise and if applicable send it into Fisher and let the pros work on it..."

Yes, there is an absolute need for technicians. And many people would probably toss a malfunctioning item in the trash,
and put another on the credit card, if they did not send it in for authorized factory service.

I've spent much of my life around people who drive a truck from the showroom floor into the garage, rip the motor down,
and install a cam, chip, exhaust, and supercharger... Or buy a brand new $20k motorcycle, and tear it down for paint,
engine mods, and nitrous.
Many years ago I watched a Pantera go directly to the shop, for a completely built engine. (It wasn't quick enough???)

Frankly, I remain distressed that so few refuse to toe the line, any longer.
Adventure within guidelines lacks innovation.
We'll be stuck in the comfort zone as others in the fast lane zip past us.

...and think of those techs, earning a decent living for their families, re-adjusting what someone had taken 15 minutes to botch... LoL

When the kiddies in the park ask me, "Watcha doin?" I tell them, "I'm lookin' for pennies." They run on their way.
When people ask what I've found, I tell them, "Pennies and pulltabs... But I hope to find a nice ring, for my wife!"
They grin, and go on about their business happily, because I've left them with a concept of great things.
Everyone already knows if you work your fingers to the bone, all you get is boney fingers.
90% of everything IS dung. But that's not why we work our way through it.

I've always hoped that if I could spark the light in just one person during my daily travels perhaps creativity and
innovation would come of it. I like the idea of a better place!

It's all good.
rmptr
 
I'm actually a good example of how a little knowledge can get a person into a lot of trouble!
Fortunately, most of the time I've been able to figure things out to resolve the discrepancies of what I dud.:)

Other times I needed to ask for assistance, but I'm not too proud to do that.

But I CAN tape a magnet to a stick.
All by myself.

rmptr
 
Granted RMPTR may have the electrical background and expertise and testing equipment to attempt repairing or supertuning his unit but unfortunately like washers, dryers etc. they don't come with a schematic so god speed on his part..For all others like myself leave them to the experts if needed lest you damage or tune the unit in error and if my post prevents only one forum member from doing so I feel my efforts were not in vain..Certainly everyone is welcome to post their opinion and I certainly read every post with a grain of salt and I feel better to join the dance than become a wallflower and not post at all as exchanging opinions is the way we learn...
 
I watched a dvd film, some time ago...

Sir Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin battling for their lives against a bear in Alaska.
The Edge.

Hopkins shows Baldwin a picture of an Indian killing a grizzly bear and tells him, "What one man can do, so can another."

Our lives are not at stake here.

We're talking about a non-critical tool worth about $300. Less, if not pristine and functioning perfectly.

I made a mistake, and I'll admit it.

The fellow should have been referred over to the mods forum, with a cautionary word.

HH
rmptr
 
i'm with you dan!..without proper equipment,and a strong background in electronics,one should back off,and let the "pros" do it!..

(h.h!)
j.t.
 
what?..who said that!...

(h.h!)
j.t.
 
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