CZ3D is on its way

[prolab69]

Just ordered it, and im hoping I made a good choice. The sites im hunting are one acre parks
that date back to the 1850s, My friend has an MXT and ive been using an old whites eagle spectrum and its at the point where we just cant find anything at these parks anymore, last year I cleaned out this park finding 7 indian heads, 5 V nickels, 2 barber dimes, wheats, tokens, and pull tabs galore. But now? there just seems to be nothing left. they say the 3d is for all the hunted out sites. Ive been reading posts and info on this machine to get a better edge when it arrives,
but im wondering if those parks are cleaned out and I just baught $750.00 waste of time. My eagle spectrum is a darn good machine, but im kinda getting sick of collecting memorials in wet dirt that read as a dime 6" down, Ive been detecting for a good 6 years, found some gold, found pleanty of silver, love the hobie. im hoping i can get use to the sounds by not looking for the VDI.
so i guess the best thing for me to do is just run it on the presets, listen for the high tones, and just start digging and see what pops up. the places ill be going have been hunted to death, I live in the NY Fingerlakes and almost everyone and thier sister has a machine out here, But i picked the 3d because it seems to have a slight edge over the other machines as far as nickels and gold and what everyone else has missed....maybe. So if anyone has a word or two that will help get my hopes up for a new CZ user then that would be great. I love reading what everyone says on here and really picked up some great info.
Ill keep you posted on how things turn out.
Prolab

 

[harryo]

You done good , learn it well. Found more good coins with it than any other machine i used. Do not expect to clean up on the parks for awhile till you learn the machine.The CZ3d locks on hard to deep coins. Watch your meter on good sounds and make sure they hit from every direction can not go wrong with the CZ3d.

 

[rmptr]

OK, Prolab, a word or two?

That's about all I can manage on the CZ, and have never used a spectrum...

After purchasing a 10" coil from a nice fellow here on the forum, to replace the defunct unit on my machine, I was quite overwhelmed with the number of signals from targets my other machines had not been aware of.

Hopefully you shall have the same experience.
I've set my CZ aside, for beach and open field work, until I can locate a 5" coil for sale, to clamp it down a bit!

I can't imagine $'s spent on a Fisher being poorly spent.

HH
rmptr

 

[jmaryt]

are the areas you are hunting loaded with modern trash?..a lot of aluminum?..if so,then you will be diggin a lot,and hopefully most of the "hits " will be coins!

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[jmaryt]

hi!..harryo!
where do you normally hunt with the cz-3d?..may i ask?

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[Ray(Ca)]

The 3D is a excellent machine. I just picked up a used one a few days ago. I've owned a CZ70 and a 6A and I have to say the 3D is a different beast. Run your disc wide open (accept iron) and listen close. It hits hard on coins. Make sure that you sweep from both directions and listen carefully to the audio. I have only been fooled once by a rusted nail and I should have known not to dig it as it sounded deep/soft but only read 4 inches deep. I've been hunting some cleaned out old area's and although I've found nothing great yet I know that if I keep using this machine in older areas something good is coming I can just tell. It's a deep coin finder. Just be patient with it and you with be rewarded.

Ray(Ca)

 

[Ed in Mo]

A great choice you will not regret! A few things to know..learn to ground balance with the bobbing method, always hunt with "0" discrimination, and keep the sensitivity between "4" and "5"....that is where it seems to work at a peak. You will know if your sensitivity is turn to high if you laid it down to dig something and it chirps randomly. This baby pinpoint perfect, no large holes here. Just know if it says 4" and it is a coin...4" it will be. This machine likes a slow sweep speed so do not rush it. Swing low and slow for best results. I would use the salt mode at most parks in the very busy areas until you learn the sounds of it. There is a distinct deferents in the coin and iron in the sound of the beep..iron is not as pretty sounding as a coin. Same with the nickel, this machine is hot on nickles but can be fools with some other aluminum items that are bent and folded but these will also sound different...more so when you pinpoint them. I would use head phones aways and listen closely. Coins and jewelry have a clear sharp sound in the beginning and end of the tone.

I don't post here at all much anymore only read to keep up on the news. I always try to keep to myself but hard when someone is talking about the 3d. I have hunted with several units over the past 20 years and fell in love with the 3d. Just know that the salt mode will still find the deep ones as well but learn the enhanced mode by switching back and forth some. The 3d is very under rated by some and maybe there are different versions of this unit out there or something. I can tell you I have found more gold and silver jewelry with the 3d in the last 2 years hitting high tones in the enhanced mode, than I have found in the other 18 years together. This thing loves silver and copper and I will say it again....sweep slow for the best sound. Listen for the perfect sound, clear and sharp from all directions.

Good luck my friend..and just have fun.

 

[prolab69]

thanks everyone,
I cant wait till it arives. the places ive been hunting are small parks that are not that populated today. one park used to have a one room school house, which is the place I cant wait to see what ive missed with my other machine. This particular park has given me 2 large cents plus many indians and V nickels and is mainly only used as a ball field now. There is some trash, but its very limited. other older places in this area is in constant use today where im sure the salt mode will work nicely. I plan on bringing a note pad with me and jot down each reading and whats recovered for each reading as a learning curve. but im sure once I hear what a coin sounds like? then ill be good from then on in. Im sure ill be digging every high tone to start with
so I know what the bouncing differencials are. my other machine (whites spectrum) came out in the 1990 and used to perform just as good if not better than my partners MXT, so thats the only reason im concerned if the parks are cleaned out yet or not. It was going down a good 8" sometimes. But only sometimes, my thinking is that there should be more at that depth. If I can find clad dimes from the 70s-80s at 6 inches, then what depth is all the heavier silver at? my partners neighbor picked through these parks back 10-20 years ago and showed me pictures of his collection he sold for $40grand, about 3 shoe boxes full of everything you can imagine. But back then he didnt have the internet or the research capabilities available to me today. So im just wondering...since these sites date back to the early -to- mid 1800s, and the type of machines that were in production back then....im thinking anyone who hunted these parks long ago may have missed alot of deep goodies. Heck if im finding clad dimes at 6 inches? then there has to be older stuff that is way deeper, taking into consideration that packed ground and rocks slow the coins down on the sink rate. but...I guess we shall see.
you guys and your older posts on this forum is a great help
HH and thanks

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Get you the extra depth as CZ's may be the deepest unit on the planet coil for coil..User friendly unit and once you learn how to avoid those super deep rusty nails I am sure the park will start producing again..Remember a Whites requires a rather fast swing while CZ's get better depth swung at a slow to moderate swing so some swing adjutment is in order..

 

[cometguy]

I have only had mine about three weeks and so far so good. I have gone over areas that I felt like I had hit hard and found coins every time.
My nickel count is way up and I have picked up a lot more clad than usual. I think the slower sweep speed and the great target separation have pulled coins between the trash signals.
It has gone 6 or 7 inches on a few coins but haven't hit a deep silver yet. Just a matter of time, I am convinced that if I put it over a deep silver coin I will find it.

Happy HH Don

 

[Ron from Michigan]

I used a White's Eagle Spectrum and the CZ3D.You will have to work on learning to sweep slower or you'll loose depth.I usually keep three to four detectors around to use but I find it very difficult to alternate between detectors with different sweep speeds.The CZ is deeper than the Spectrum and hits very hard on deep dimes.The CZ is simple to use,but go slow on your coil sweep.I hope the CZ works out.

 

[prolab69]

Cool replies, thanks a lot.
yeah the spectrum does use a pretty fast swing, and the parks im hunting did have a lot
of old coins in them last year before another guy and myself pounded them to death. Im really thinking theres more stuff we were missing. with the slow speed required for this machine it should take a while to fully cover them again, and I think thats just what i need to get myself familliar with this machine. hardly anyone goes to these two parks I have in mind, Ill just plug myself into the headphones, go nice and slow, listen for all the tone differences and learn the unit without any distractions. Ive been reading all the info from Tom, and reading every post on here about it, patience and an understanding of all the questions asked by new users compared to all the replies by the ones more experienced with its workings.
You guys have really got me psyched.
thanks
Pro-

 

[thejetman]

good choice. i love my cz3d. once you get used to it and figure out what it is telling you, its all over with for coins !

 

[prolab69]

I was kind of wondering....If you guys are digging 9-10 inch targets? why does the meter only go to 8" ?....is there a way to know if its a 10"er ? or is it something that will come to me by listening to the tones?

another thing?..lol, what are the bouncers that are good compared to whats not good, I expect to get this today and will be going to an old park that is not in much use today, my first setting will most likely be advanced mode, disc-0, sens 4-5, Im aware that a deep bouncer in the foil area is a good target, and switching to salt once in a while to see if it registers as a nickel is a good target. but what id like to know is where do nails most often fall? im sure ill dig my share, but i would still like to jot a few things down for field tests and see how my machine compares to others who have posted. and I am taking in mind the differencials of soil, but id still like to dig less nails.
this park has produced many indian heads and large cents for me and my hunting partner, but very few nickels, I myself have never found a shield nickel, but i did find quite a few V`s and buffalos. so any info on the bouncers would be great, I hope im not asking questions that deal mostly in trial and error as to how hot my machine is and ground conditions..if so? thats understandable.
thanks a bunch
HH
Pro-

 

[Ed in Mo]

Just something you should know, a deeper aged buffalo, shield or v nickle will not register as a nickle in both modes. Most of these older nickle will only register high tone in the enhanced mode. The salt mode will normally read tab on these older nickles. Do not think it has to register as a nickle in both modes, to be a nickle. If most silver in that area are deep then really watch the deep nickle signal...don't pass it up because it reads differently in the salt mode or you will miss some real goodies.

As far as depth below 8", mind is 8" when the needle gets on the edge of the 8 mark, about 9-10" in the center or outer edge of that 8 mark. You will not have to be to concerned about that..at that depth you are usually on the end of a shovel so not like you are digging a exact hole. Now I will point out that if it says it is 4" deep and you have dug 8"....let it go. Some items at 8" can appear the same size as a 4" coin...I have had that happen a few time and was only junk. Relax...learn a good coin sound and go from there. Don't expect too much to soon and have patients. Use short strokes over the target after you find something and recheck all small "chirps" to be sure. If you hit a target off center it will not always give you the perfect "stop and dig me tone".Don't be afraid to use the boost on the volume. I am a bit hard of hearing myself and hate to strain while hunting. I run mind on 8 or 9 and can pinpoint to see if it is a deepy or not.

At great depths the only bounce I have seen personally on coins was a iron / coin bounce on super deep coins on edge or tilted. Learn to ground balance is the most important thing!

 

[thejetman]

Yup. It will give you a distinctive high tone for coins, once you hear it for the first time, you will be mezmorized on how much you will find. If it is a nail, which these LOVE, It is more of a mid tone, which will fool you at first. It likes a slower sweep pattern, if you hear a high beep, go back over it a couple of times to get a left "beep" and a right "beep" Its a coin! And 9 times out of ten, it is dead center of the coil. DEAD CENTER! My disc is set at 0 with my Sens. set at 1-3 no higher. Otherwise you pick up all sorts of crap. Most of the things that are 8-12 in range are big objects, like beer cans. I have dug to china to find a Yoohoo cap! As far as ground balancing goes, you have to stay on top of it or you will get some false signals. I hold mine an inch of the ground, turn the knob to the 10 position, push the button, and turn it till it starts making a high pitched noise, then turn it back till it is bearly heard. Bam, you are good to go. This machine goes forever in wood chips!

HH

The Jet

 

[prolab69]

wow! great tips, thanks!
well, needless to say, the machine didnt come yet, gave them a call and asked them to trac down my "drop ship" and they said tues, Weds the latest. I figured ok sure, it is what it is. so I decided to go to one of my hunted out old parks today with the other machine. to my surprise I wound up digging a 43D merc....funny thing is? I just proved to myself theres plenty more in this park, this was a strong pulltab reading at 7" I can tell a pulltab signal, usually they are chattery and all broken up, I had a good signal from all directions. So I know theres plenty in this place that the 3d will pick up.
thanks agian
and keep@it
Pro-

 

[prolab69]

well, I got the machine today. set the baby all up and took her to the local park, she ground balanced perfectly on the presets after the bobbing. dug a little junk, tiny tiny nails. Then I found a clad nickel because I forgot to switch back to enhanced. after a little bit of time I get a nice 36 mercury dime, then 5 feet away from it another one,25 I think. shes pretty worn down. But I was pretty impressed, 2 mercs in a little under 3 hours of getting my machine. there were 2 other holes I dug at 6 inches, but I couldnt find what it was, it was the same tone and both modes read steady high coin at 6" and a lot of signals seem to bounce in the iron segment once in a while. I may lose a hunting partner pretty soon, he`s getting frustrated that i keep finding mercury dimes, 5 so far this year. my friend passed his coil over these hits with his MXT and they read foil or pulltab, not something he would have dug. Yeah this is one bad to the bone little golden silver sniffer. thanks everyone for all your help.
keep@it
Pro-

 

[thejetman]

Way to go!

 

[Ed in Mo]

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