CZ3D in a nutshell....

[Dan-Pa.]

Advanced mode after using several times I know it goes deep and if you dig all high tones in those real old areas are bound to get an extra goodie or two with minimal trash. Seems to handle that rusty old nail situation better as I haven't dug any or hit any signals where I would actually dig.
Regular mode should work well in salt water hunting well although I haven't done any, but from previous experience with previous CZ's know the salt mode works well in this enviroment..Love the new tone for foil as thats the hotspot for thin gold rings with nice stones..Funny how it gave the large target tone on two recently dropped quarters. Perhaps because they were lying tilted, but only happened twice.
As adverised two modes one for old and one for new areas and found they worked well..
Same quality CZ5 construction, limited lifetime warranty, 3D marketting ploy at best, new exterior stickers a bit gaudy but I liked them.
Before someone asks if you like a weather resistant exterior(I carry a small plastic bag) or a superior notch system a CZ70 pro might be my choice but do remember the CZ3D sens. can be set a 1 to 10..3.5, 4.2 etc not 2-4-6 and the battery compartment and hipmount of the CZ3D are superior in my mind.
In any case either of the two newest CZ models are a winner and if one had the bucks might be nice to have both...

 

[mtdoramike]

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[wayne(mj)]

Hi Dan, Well we must have different cz3d's. Most of what you say is true. But when it come's
to the part of not finding any or hardly any rusty nails, that is where your machine and mine
differ. For 2 months I have dug every solid , good repeatable hight tone that I came across.I
have some pretty old places to hunt. I have yet to find a coin deeper than 5". Anything that
rings in and shows 6" or deeper have all been them dreaded rusty nails. I hunt in both, zero
and one sensitivity . I agree that the machine will go deep, as most of these nails were 7 to 10" deep. I'm not saying it won't find deep coins , but until I do find deep a coin the jury
will still be out. Some of the places I see no reason for there to be that many nails. So
when I get a really good deep signal I have to dig it and am sure it will be a coin. But alas
nailed again. It gets disheartening but what's a body to do. Just dig them I guess.
You are not the only one to make that statement, so I figured it was just my bad luck. But it has come to the point that I think twice about digging. But with that nice clear sound that thought is short lived, so I dig. Here is some of my finds. ( I don't want to start anything
it is just my 2 cents ). Thanks Wayne

 

[sandnsea49]

I get a hi coin sound, dig it and find a nail. It's usually the deeper signals that I spend ten minutes trying to dig out in the hard ground. After sweat pouring down my eyes, and back sore I get really frustrated and go home. I have found a couple pieces of silver and a few wheats but oh man am I tired after digging all those nails. Mama never told me it was gonna be like this!

 

[wayne(mj)]

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[Dan-Pa.]

First let me say I have been using CZ's since my first CZ6 which I almost wrapped around a tree after digging 8 rusty nails in a row 8-12 inches deep.Also many areas coins don't go any deeper than 5-6 inches even in my area , but we have many areas where I have gotten approx. 12 inch silver dimes and actually dug a 16 inch walking half from a drained lake and was on my knees scooping with a hand scoop as I knew it was a larger coin.I still remember my first real deep silver barber dime where I dug 9 or 10 inches and gave up and hit the signal on my way back and at about a foot it finally emerged so I understand your post.I really believe a CZ likes iron and causes us to miss some nice finds where the iron masks the nice coin but thru reading and time in the field you can cut down the odds relative that dreaded nasty deep rusty nail and get some nice silver.
First...signal must cross from at least two directions( real deepies the second cross is hard, but taking some time saves us some digging..If it sounds like it it is larger than a coin and covers more area or double beeps probably a nail. If the pinpoint seems to move while digging its a nail. Last but notleast to a trained ear may have a high tone and hit coins all, but just sounds different and can usually even tell a wheatie from a silver coin as the audio is more mellow.Trust me ..like everyone else I get fooled now and then as depth, masking and mineralization come into play.
Do vist Mikes CZ page as it has a lot of tips...http://mikewd.fws1.com/
Believe me I am just an old ground pounder and not a Fisher shill or employee who has paid his dues over the years.
Do remember a slow swing speed, proper ground balancing, sens. setting surely helps and if anyone has any specific questions will try to answer them if I can.
Again after using quite a few a CZ will go down as my favorite for my type of hunting( deep silver coins) when I hang up my boots.
Again read Mikes CZ page, do some experimenting and above all get in some field time and you also will excell with a CZ.

 

[Dan-Pa.]

I feel you misunderstood my post..CZ3D each individual facet clicks in one at a time and the CZ70 pro does the same individually using disc....sensitivity CZ3D on the other hand is from 1 to 10 and I can set anywhere from 4.3 to 6.5 to 9.9 while the CZ70 pro only can set 2-4-6-8-10...

 

[wayne(mj)]

Where I had said , I run at 0 or 1 sens and it should have read 0 or 1 disc. I wasn't correcting or trying to disagree with what you had posted. I understood what you had said
and what you were talking about, sometimes I think faster than I type and I should read my
stuff over more carefully. HH. Wayne

 

[wayne(mj)]

Thank you Dan. Your advice will not be waisted and I will definitely check out Mike's site.
I know 2 months is not a long time on any machine and it just seemed like an excessive amount
of nails. I didn't seem to find that many nails with the other machine I had, so I found it
upsetting. But on the bright side of it , I wasn't digging that many nails that deep either.
Again thank you for your time and your thoughts as it does help sometimes when you get that
extra help and a shove in the right direction. Take care and I will try to be a H.I.H.
Wayne

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

Some of this has been touched upon or alluded to already in this thread but here's what works very well for me. First you need to be hunting without disc'ing out iron so you can hear the four tones. If you get a high tone, make sure you visualize the exact location of the source of that tone. Check it at 90 degrees from the original sweep direction. IF you still get a high tone or a even a high tone/iron bouncing signal at 90 degrees and the source of the tone is the same location as the original, then check one last time with pinpoint mode. If the apparent location of the high tone(s) and the target center in pinpoint is different, don't dig. Using this method will eliminate a MAJOR majority of the iron being dug mistakedly. Now, can a deep coin or oter desireable target give a good tone one way and an iron tone when checked at 90 degrees? Yes, but only extremely rarely and once again, these good one way targets will give their tone at the same location that they pinpoint at. I own or have owned most of the detectors available and my results have shown me at least that the Fishers are no worse than any of the higher powered VLF detectors on the market for distinguishing rusty iron. Experience and technique will make you digs much more rewarding.

 

[wayne(mj)]

Thank You Brad. I like what you have to say and will defiantly be giving it a try. So far I
have received alot of good advice, I just hope I can do it justice. H.I.H. Wayne