curious experience with the eclipse 950

[Topo]

on the last months I've been using the famous 6x10DD with good results, it is definitely a coin killer

But today I decided to take the dust out of the 950 and give it a try (I remember that I never tried this coil with my sunray pro headphones) and what a surprise! I got some old buttons that my 6x10DD totally missed in a short amount of time.

maybe a low mineralized soil... a defective 6x10DD... or a little more detecting experience. But I will give definitely to concentrics a new chance

 

[Nancy-IL]

I love my stock coil and use it 95% of the time. I have all types of coils in our arsenal but still come back to it. I've gotten nickels out of type spots. Just happen to get a no date Buffalo today while playing in the soil. HH, Nancy

 

[Topo]

It's funny, because when I was digging coins and bullets with the 950 from my 6x10DD spots I remember one of your posts talking nice things about the 950 coil
I'm a little afraid that maybe I have a defective 6x10, because with the 950 I get the tiny lead bullets of air-guns more often than with the 6x10, I don't know if you or anyone else experience the same

never tried the 5.3 yet, but the 950 will stay on my detector for my next hunts


Edit: I forgot to say that I have the old eclipse 950

 

[Nancy-IL]

My stock coil is the original one that came with it and it's OLD! 9 years. I know what you mean about picking out itsy-bitsy tiny little pieces of metal. The stock will do it if you run your machine right. I love it! I also love the 5.3 and the Bigfoot coil. Can't say if your other coil is defective or not. Hmm. Maybe someone has some suggestions as what to do??? I had a 6x10 and sold the thing. I know others that just love it, but I didn't. HH, Nancy

 

[Larry (IL)]

Except in the most mineralized ground, or very trashy ground, the 950 should do much better than the 6X10 DD. The 6X10 should have the depth of a 6 inch coil when comparing Concentric to DD coils. The 950 is about the best "all around" coil White's can put on the MXT. Many of the "Old Timers" would say an 8" would be better, and they might be right, but it is hard to beat the 950 in "most" hunting conditions. In trashy ground, the smaller coils including the 6X10 rule........

 

[Topo]

let's wait to see if someone chime in about the 6x10

I think we have the same 950 model, the one they used on the mxt instructional video.
The only bad side of getting those tiny metal pieces is that maybe I will have to invest on a better pinpointer, the sherlock that I use struggled recovering some of those micro targets

 

[Topo]

Except in the most mineralized ground, or very trashy ground, the 950 should do much better than the 6X10 DD. The 6X10 should have the depth of a 6 inch coil when comparing Concentric to DD coils. The 950 is about the best "all around" coil White's can put on the MXT. Many of the "Old Timers" would say an 8" would be better, and they might be right, but it is hard to beat the 950 in "most" hunting conditions. In trashy ground, the smaller coils including the 6X10 rule........

another great "Pro" that I see on the 6x10 is when detecting around fences and metal obstacles. It is a really nice tool indeed for that job

 

[BarberBill]

I've had excellent over all results with the 6X10, but go to the 950 when I want or need several or more inches of depth. I have to ask WHY would you struggle to recover bits of metal so small you have a hard time even with a pinpointer? When I first began detecting, I often wasted time searching for small bits until it dawned on me that except maybe for prospecting or some other specialized situation if a target was much smaller than a dime and hard to see or recover, I didn't want it anyway.
BB

 

[Topo]

I've had excellent over all results with the 6X10, but go to the 950 when I want or need several or more inches of depth. I have to ask WHY would you struggle to recover bits of metal so small you have a hard time even with a pinpointer? When I first began detecting, I often wasted time searching for small bits until it dawned on me that except maybe for prospecting or some other specialized situation if a target was much smaller than a dime and hard to see or recover, I didn't want it anyway.
BB

the same situation over here, the 6x10 has given me cool finds, but my last hunt has given me great confidence with the 950, the extra depth can really be the cause

concerning the madness of recovering bits of metals, that's the way I am, if I don't discover what is there the curiosity would kill me (a little nugget... an earing... )

 

[RounderRick]

When I got my shooter 4x6 I actually had intended on getting the 6x10 and the dealer I got my mxt from said he could have it to me the next day but I would be better off getting the shooter for high trash and keeping my 950 stock coil for open areas.
I'm glad now he did because I now have a little coil that can handle the worst of trashy areas and I've always been happy with the depth of the 950 I thought about later getting the 6x10 to relic hunt with but I'm afraid with the depth loss over the 950 I might miss a great find so most likely I'll just keep what I have and maybe invest in a dx-1 pin pointer instead.

 

[GpSnoopy]

For depth comparisons with a concentric you would use the "smaller" dimension for the 6x10. So, 6" vs 9.5" In medium to low mineralization, the 950 should see deeper than the 6x10. In higher mineralized situations, the 6x10 may equal or surpass the 950. Target separation is much better with the DD and less overlap is required because of it's tip to toe signal coverage.

Edit: I just saw I pretty much said what Larry (IL) said, but it can't hurt to mention it again.

 

[BarberBill]

No doubt about it, if depth is the main consideration, the 950 in most locations will have the edge. However, I still prefer the 8X10 for coverage and separation, In most areas I hunt, the depth is adequate to good. Also worth keeping in mind - the Double D coils cover more ground at depth (in the long dimension) as the detecting pattern doesn't taper like the more or less cone shaped pattern of the concentrics. If your budget can stand it, have both and use whichever seems the best at the time.
BB

 

[Topo]

When I got my shooter 4x6 I actually had intended on getting the 6x10 and the dealer I got my mxt from said he could have it to me the next day but I would be better off getting the shooter for high trash and keeping my 950 stock coil for open areas.
I'm glad now he did because I now have a little coil that can handle the worst of trashy areas and I've always been happy with the depth of the 950 I thought about later getting the 6x10 to relic hunt with but I'm afraid with the depth loss over the 950 I might miss a great find so most likely I'll just keep what I have and maybe invest in a dx-1 pin pointer instead.

some folks swear by their 5.3, If Im not wrong it has better depth than the 4x6, but the down side is that you can't hunt around fences so easily
maybe all we need to cover most situations are: the 950 and a 5.3 or a Shooter

 

[RounderRick]

You're correct Topo the 5.3 does have a little more depth than the 4x6 except in high mineral ground as the 4x6 is a dd coil but I just like the better seperation of the little narrow coil but unless it's really a lot of trash and pulltabs I'm gonna use the stock anyways.

 

[Topo]

You're correct Topo the 5.3 does have a little more depth than the 4x6 except in high mineral ground as the 4x6 is a dd coil but I just like the better seperation of the little narrow coil but unless it's really a lot of trash and pulltabs I'm gonna use the stock anyways.

hi rick, have you compared both coils (5.3 and 4x6) which one do you think is more sensitive to gold?

 

[srf2112]

Sometimes there's treasure in those tiny bits, kind of like gold rings in the pulltabs. A little extra effort with the pro pointer recently found me a small rose-shaped antique gold bead. Another small signal recovered a 3 gram gold nugget from a tot-lot of all places. Sterling silver earing backs may not be super valuable but they are a thrill to pull up from 3 or 4 inches down. The MXT can go very small so I try to take full advantage of that when I can. JMHO
HH
Scott

I've had excellent over all results with the 6X10, but go to the 950 when I want or need several or more inches of depth. I have to ask WHY would you struggle to recover bits of metal so small you have a hard time even with a pinpointer? When I first began detecting, I often wasted time searching for small bits until it dawned on me that except maybe for prospecting or some other specialized situation if a target was much smaller than a dime and hard to see or recover, I didn't want it anyway.
BB

 

[RounderRick]

You're correct Topo the 5.3 does have a little more depth than the 4x6 except in high mineral ground as the 4x6 is a dd coil but I just like the better seperation of the little narrow coil but unless it's really a lot of trash and pulltabs I'm gonna use the stock anyways.

hi rick, have you compared both coils (5.3 and 4x6) which one do you think is more sensitive to gold?

No I've never used the 5.3 but I would say as for rings and things like that it wouldn't make much difference both coils should do well with that but if you're talking about gold nuggets I'd have to say the 4x6 would be the ticket because it is a dd coil and even though I don't live in an area to detect nuggets from what I've read them areas the ground has high minerals and the dd coils work better there.

 

[Topo]

You're correct Topo the 5.3 does have a little more depth than the 4x6 except in high mineral ground as the 4x6 is a dd coil but I just like the better seperation of the little narrow coil but unless it's really a lot of trash and pulltabs I'm gonna use the stock anyways.

hi rick, have you compared both coils (5.3 and 4x6) which one do you think is more sensitive to gold?

No I've never used the 5.3 but I would say as for rings and things like that it wouldn't make much difference both coils should do well with that but if you're talking about gold nuggets I'd have to say the 4x6 would be the ticket because it is a dd coil and even though I don't live in an area to detect nuggets from what I've read them areas the ground has high minerals and the dd coils work better there.

cool, thanks

 

[jamesinwesttexas]

Also, the 6x10 Eclipse [DD] coil should [I haven't tried it there] work better in salty sand or a mineralized beach although depth would seem to be an issue. I have the 6x10, the 5 inch Excelerator and the 950 and use the 5 inch most of the time. Wish I had a 5.3 Eclipse as I've read it does good nugget hunting and gives better ID on coins than the 6x10. I've never used my 950 but need to try it. James