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CTX Shocked Me Today :drool:

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earthmansurfer

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I finally got to go back to my honey hole for around 4 hours. I had hunted this place VERY HARD with the E-Trac. I pulled quite a few deeper coins from there (8" - 9" in my iron mineralized ground is nearing max).
Well, I hunted a small strip, maybe 10ft X 40ft that ABSOLUTELY was not giving up any more deep coins. I had hunted this strip from many many angles. It was easily identifiable as it's a bit raised
and contained by a tree at one end and bushes at the other.

Well, I pulled 3 coins from 8", one large (quarter sized) silver from 9" that was masked from 2 directions (a first and my deepest silver), a thimble from 8", a pulltab from 9" (my deepest :biggrin:) and a few others at 6" or so. Also got a small crushed and rolled up mini tube of toothpaste from 11.5" (length of Lesche). It was like I was hunting a new spot. I was really really shocked. I'll be uploading the videos and placing most of them in the classroom forum due to my playing endlessly with most of the settings, modes, tone profiles, etc. I only dug one nail (huge one) that barely hit but I was curious - thought it was a nail but had to check.

Just a note, that 9" deep silver coin was mostly a 2 way hit. It pinpointed a foot wide to the left. I didn't film the screen cause it was iffy and there were some people near that I didn't want to bug. But I was wondering if there might be silver in there as it was very clean in two directions and a silver VID. This was the second coin that hit only from 2 ways on the CTX. There was the occasional hit from the other direction and I almost filmed the screen, wish I had. I did film the hole and coin after the fact but I was a bit disappointed that the toughest coin hit I have yet to dig on the CTX was silver at 9" wasn't caught on video. Would have been the ultimate educational video of sorts. Silver is pretty rare in Germany compared to the States. To get it on my first hunt back here after hunting this spot for over 100 hours on the E-Trac and getting 5 silvers is way ahead of schedule! Anyway, watch those high tone two way hits that don't pinpoint small!

I have over 25 or so hours on my CTX and was really wanting to get back to this spot and I waited to post, good or bad, until it happened.

You guys who know me know I like to shoot direct. I don't shy from complaining when I feel it's warranted and likewise I give props when I feel I should. Well, this is one of those times - today was the test, the big one. Today reminded me of when I first got my E-Trac and hunted this spot after having hit it for 20+ hours with another machine. It was like a new place for deeper coins. Well, imagine not getting any more deep signals with the E-Trac in a small strip. With the E-Trac I used the 6X8 SEF, 11" stock and the 13" Detech in this strip. It was finished, no more decent signals. I'm absolutely flabbergasted and am just giving the CTX its due. There is a fair amount of iron there, which is probably the reason for the CTX doing better.

Albert
 
Congrats on the silver and finds and thanks for all the great info


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Congrats on the silver and thanks for the honest report on your hunt. Can't wait to see the vids.
 
n/t
 
Jeez Albert, I'm going to have go re-hunt all of my hunting spots from the last thirty years now...........:biggrin:

Congrats on the great finds.
 
Nice. I think I have walked away from the huge pinpoint signals on good targets, thinking it was a pop can. Oops...

Thanks.
 
Albert is in an area of the world where you dig everything. Even a can is a relic. Here in the U.S. aluminum cans and slaw can drive you nuts after digging up a few hundred in a week.

Good finds, Albert. I love that silver Mark. And thanks for all the testing! Thats great!

Wally
 
Thanks for the comments guys. I posted this video in the 3030 classroom but will include it in this thread in case you don't get over there.

BTW - 6 hours total today and no back pain. Very happy. But, carrying the small camcorder with the magic arm connected to the CTX does throw the balance off, so I was removing it sometimes.

Albert

ps - Yes Larry, that appears true, now get going ;-)

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Na00Xwbfp4[/video]
 
Albert,
Another nice video. I noticed when you were in combined mode that you were getting very little if any iron sound. It is hard to tell, with these old eyes, but it looked like you were running an open screen. I guess my question is, if there was not much iron around, to what do you contribute finding the coin with the 3030 and not finding it with the E-Trac, if masking was not involved. Could it be the depth?

Thanks Randy
 
Hi Randy, good points. I was running an open Combine screen (mostly) and as you can see, in 50 Conductive I run a pretty minimal disc pattern. You heard right, there was no iron by that coin (at least nothing the machine picked up - there are lots of iron flakes in the ground from the heavy iron usage over the years, so there is the chance that is a part as well). I mostly attribute it to a combination of the depth and somewhat iron mineralized ground (and those iron flakes as well). I think in the video that you can hear the CTX is nearing it's max depth for my ground at the 8" to 9" mark - I think it has another 2" or in it. At 7" it usually hits like it is at 4" but beyond 7" it seems like that iron mineralization is taking it's toll. The other video I uploaded (I'll post it below) clearly shows iron when I check the target in Combine. The Silver also had iron nearby, worst of the bunch but luckily silver is such a high conductor.

From my testing with the CTX, at 8" I could detect a coin that was 2" from iron, but not 1" from iron (well, it depends, but generally). My guess is the E-Trac with the stock coil won't do as well (usually). So, the CTX in iron infested grounds is going to pick up more coins near iron (my guess is 10% - 20% more but that is just a guess.

Iron mineralized ground must be doing something similar. I was shocked that ground coin worked so well in my ground. As you can see it worked better than high trash but I think (most of the time) not as well as ferrous coin. I want to find a coin at the absolute limits for the CTX in my ground (9" - 10") and then compare ferrous coin with ground coin. That is the video I want to make. Oh, and another chance at silver in heavy iron ;)

Another note - On that deeper silver in iron - I played with every setting like in the above video and basically the response was the same as in that video (but it still hit on it always - which shocked me after the fact.)

Thanks for the good point,
Albert

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwmztajQDo[/video]
 
Congratulations Albert :surprised: I'm surprised at the depth you are getting in all that iron soil :thumbup: fantastic video and again very well done.... Phil.
 
Thanks Albert, very informative stuff, and I forgot to say congrats on that beautiful silver coin, very cool. I can't wait to put the 3030 to test in some of my iron infested sites.

Thanks Randy
 
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