CTX 3030 AUDIO TONES FOR DEPTH

[PullTabDan]

Hi Everyone

This is my first post and its in regards to setting the audio tones for the purpose of setting the machine to sounds faint the deeper the target. Im used to the Etrac and I have my audio settings just perfect but I would like to get everyones feedback on how they sent there audio gain. Im using the 4 tone combined and Ive been killing it with silver but the problem Im having i missing other targets so I would like to hunt without having to look at my machine to determine how deep the target. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Thank you

 

[DukeOBass]

You will want to experiment with your Volume Gain to make deep targets sound weaker.

 

[GateKeeper]

The weaker the deeper targets, the more the chance you will miss the them. I crank my gain to max (30). I could care less how a 7" target sounds like a 4" target, I don't want to miss the 11 - 12" targets.

 

[Ray-Mo.]

Ultra deep targets are hard enough to hear without dropping the gain/volume on them to further handicap oneself in my opinion. I f you were only hunting modern shallow coinage it would make more sense to me . After all it only takes a second to check the depth indicator , Ray.

 

[Big Boys Hobbies]

Hi Dan!

I little air testing should help you with that. I like my Gain boosted just a bit. Dont want to miss a deep one.

 

[GateKeeper]

Air testing does nothing. Just crank your gain up.

 

[Choppy Sig]

Interesting replies from two knowledgeable users.

I'd suggest picking a starting point and work from there.
I've been struggle with where to set my gain as well recently. I don't like having every target blow my ears off so max gain isn't for me. In fact I just lowered my gain to 14 the other day and had some great results. The first three silver coins located had a nice softer tone volume and I was sure they were deeper than the surface clad. The next two I found were beautiful sounding whispers. Soft tone but clear. These two were both found at 7-8". Next time you find a target you think is deep. Play with your gain a bit before digging. We all have different methods & getting it right for you is what you are after.

I will say that I'd prefer to sleep at night without the ringing in my ears. Hearing loss is no joke.
BTW, I'm using the Sun Ray Gold headphones. The koss headphones haven't been used since I picked up the Sun Rays

 

[GateKeeper]

Interesting replies from two knowledgeable users.

I'd suggest picking a starting point and work from there.
I've been struggle with where to set my gain as well recently. I don't like having every target blow my ears off so max gain isn't for me. In fact I just lowered my gain to 14 the other day and had some great results. The first three silver coins located had a nice softer tone volume and I was sure they were deeper than the surface clad. The next two I found were beautiful sounding whispers. Soft tone but clear. These two were both found at 7-8". Next time you find a target you think is deep. Play with your gain a bit before digging. We all have different methods & getting it right for you is what you are after.

I will say that I'd prefer to sleep at night without the ringing in my ears. Hearing loss is no joke.
BTW, I'm using the Sun Ray Gold headphones. The koss headphones haven't been used since I picked up the Sun Rays

You said soft whispers at 7-8". That's what I hear at 11-12". When I was testing the gain last year, All the deep 11-12" targets could not be heard without the gain at least set to 27. This test was done time after time again. But hey, what works for you guys. I know what works for me and I will not miss those deep targets.

 

[GKMan]

Interesting thread.. I will try my gain at full bore for a while....

 

[wildherre]

Like Gatekeeper says, the deeper signals will totally disappear at lower gain levels.. I use different gain setting on different coils, normally, 30 on the 6", 27 0n the 11", and 24 on the 17"..... I go by 3s, carryover from the Explorer days.... I use the depth meter and good pin-pointing techniques religiously... wildherre

 

[deep-digger-dan]

Gatekeeper,
Educate me if you will. I was under the impression that max gain made all targets sound the same. How does a 12" whisper when everything I've read about max gain states all targets regardless of depth will sound similar?
Cheers

Interesting replies from two knowledgeable users.

I'd suggest picking a starting point and work from there.
I've been struggle with where to set my gain as well recently. I don't like having every target blow my ears off so max gain isn't for me. In fact I just lowered my gain to 14 the other day and had some great results. The first three silver coins located had a nice softer tone volume and I was sure they were deeper than the surface clad. The next two I found were beautiful sounding whispers. Soft tone but clear. These two were both found at 7-8". Next time you find a target you think is deep. Play with your gain a bit before digging. We all have different methods & getting it right for you is what you are after.

I will say that I'd prefer to sleep at night without the ringing in my ears. Hearing loss is no joke.
BTW, I'm using the Sun Ray Gold headphones. The koss headphones haven't been used since I picked up the Sun Rays

You said soft whispers at 7-8". That's what I hear at 11-12". When I was testing the gain last year, All the deep 11-12" targets could not be heard without the gain at least set to 27. This test was done time after time again. But hey, what works for you guys. I know what works for me and I will not miss those deep targets.

 

[GateKeeper]

Maxing the gain will make targets in the 5 -6 " ranges sound like shallower targets. But as the targets get deeper, the response from the target that is shot back up to the coil has a farther distance to go which makes it not as loud. Basically like a microphone, the farther away from the mic you get, the quieter it get's. The volume gain will give a boost to the deeper targets that we all want. Don't handicap your machine, run it optimally for optimum results.

I understand that some guys don't want their ears blown off, but that is what discrimination is there for. Getting rid of the junk that you don't want to hear all day long.

Every situation is different and that is why there are so many different programs for every situation. Such as running an open program for a farm field will not work in a trashy park environment. Like I said, it may not be for you, but you will miss the deep targets if you don't crank the gain up.

Gatekeeper,
Educate me if you will. I was under the impression that max gain made all targets sound the same. How does a 12" whisper when everything I've read about max gain states all targets regardless of depth will sound similar?
Cheers

Interesting replies from two knowledgeable users.

I'd suggest picking a starting point and work from there.
I've been struggle with where to set my gain as well recently. I don't like having every target blow my ears off so max gain isn't for me. In fact I just lowered my gain to 14 the other day and had some great results. The first three silver coins located had a nice softer tone volume and I was sure they were deeper than the surface clad. The next two I found were beautiful sounding whispers. Soft tone but clear. These two were both found at 7-8". Next time you find a target you think is deep. Play with your gain a bit before digging. We all have different methods & getting it right for you is what you are after.

I will say that I'd prefer to sleep at night without the ringing in my ears. Hearing loss is no joke.
BTW, I'm using the Sun Ray Gold headphones. The koss headphones haven't been used since I picked up the Sun Rays

You said soft whispers at 7-8". That's what I hear at 11-12". When I was testing the gain last year, All the deep 11-12" targets could not be heard without the gain at least set to 27. This test was done time after time again. But hey, what works for you guys. I know what works for me and I will not miss those deep targets.

 

[deep-digger-dan]

Great reply thank you.

 

[TheGeorgiaCanuck]

I've been running my gain at 25 since I got the machine. Course I'm still using the Koss headphones(till Christmas day this year) Once I get those I'll experiment with 27 setting. Only problem is so far, I've only had a couple of finds be deeper than 8-9" in parks. As there is tons of rocks around here in the soil. Of course I might find I've MISSED things deeper because of the Koss headphones and running at 35 on the gain. I'll test it once I get them.

P.S. I'm crazy and I run ferrous-coin/combine with open screen even in trashy parks. I don't like thinking I'm missing any targets with discrim.

Got a question for the Sunray Gold users here. Do you run with the sunrays plugged into the wireless or do you hook straight up to the machine. And does anyone know if there is a sound difference between using either??

 

[GateKeeper]

I've used the Sunrays both ways. I like them plugged into the WM 10.

P.S. Volume Gain max's out at 30.

 

[Larry (IL)]

I plug the SunRay Golds into the CTX William. I don't see any benefit to me using the wireless module and I don't hear any difference between the two methods.

 

[D&P-OR]

GateKeeper------Have you been running with deep on (or off)?

The weaker the deeper targets, the more the chance you will miss the them. I crank my gain to max (30). I could care less how a 7" target sounds like a 4" target, I don't want to miss the 11 - 12" targets.

 

[GateKeeper]

Depends where I am hunting, but most of the time I do.

 

[chadwick]

I use the sun ray golds and my gain will very from site to site. I run it on 8 most of the time , I went today and knew I had silver so I switch to 30 and if it had it on 30 to start with I would of pass it up . MHI good head phones like the golds make up for the difference. I have honestly found some deep sliver but its like anything else do whats comfortable for you .