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Cracking the CTX

sube

Well-known member
As you know I have been working on the no audio since somewhere around 2013 it should be said visual .
Here's a point I would like to make this is not a explorer or e-trac this is a new detector from minelab it's like the first explorer xs I can see where this is going a total visual detector heck you have it now right in your hands .No audio put it in pinpoint sizing with target trace put your music on with your headphones and detect just look at the screen .

You paid $ 2500 for this bad boy your only using $1250.00 of it basically the e-trac side of it the other half of it is visual this is what separates it from the others

Now you have target trace read that again target trace who here is using target ( trace ) not where the cursor is filling in but the (trace) that goes to it .
I often wonder why nobody posted coins with no audio Well take high trash ground coin and low trash all have target (TRACE) that said again target (TRACE) Nobody See's the trace because it only happens when you get a no audio iron on top of dime the only time people look at the screen is when they get audio this trace happens when there is (NO AUDIO).

Another thing pinpoint sizing with target trace is all metal and target trace is enhanced in this mode making it deeper than running in the regular mode you pick . Using pinpoint target trace sizing is a no motion with disc metal detector a thing I dreamed about years ago and it's the deepest way to hunt as a plus .

So start using the other half of this detector and it will all come together .

As for the video I was holding the camera swinging the detector and looking at the screen on the back of the camera a juggling act at best and was hard to stay on target to build traces sometimes I got it right sometimes I didn't I also probably left out a hundred things that I should of said but was pressed to get the video done in the shortest time because that one took 7 hour to process to but at least I didn't have to learn how to use the blooming camera again :blink:.:thumbup: sube
 
( Nobody See's the trace because it only happens when you get a no audio iron on top of dime the only time people look at the screen is when they get audio this trace happens when there is (NO AUDIO).
sorry about that

What I meant to say is when no audio happens. Trace is active all the time when engaged and you will see it sorry about that should proof read what I right . sube
 
Everyone listen to Sube.. He knows the CTX, and how to interpret the information it gives you..
Too bad he can only detect about five and a half months of the year since he gets so much snow..
 
Sube may not be the most eloquent writer or videographer, but he's a superb detectorist...
...and deserves the utmost respect for sharing his hard earned experience, and efforts.

Keep it up, Sube. (don't be too hard on yourself)
:)
mike

(written while under at least 6-8 inches of snow still left from this last spring blizzard...)
 
Depriving yourself of data is voluntarily handicapping your hunting. Gotta always use all your senses in this hobby.
Hard to imagine a machine without Target Trace these days for me.
 
Thanks Gary I still have a lot of things to figure out but it's getting easier because I got some time behind this detector.

trojdor it's nice to share the snow:bouncy: Well the good news is it's about half melted already .

Champ just wait till minelab comes out with the 3030 ctx2 .sube
 
So let me get this straight Sube - you're actually not listening to the audio at all and going strictly by the screen? I've seen some of your videos and assumed the "no audio" meant that certain signals were showing visual but no audio because of nearby iron.
 
Yes but I found out that high trash has it's limits 1 1/.2 inches east west hit and ferrous coin would get 3 inches . sube
 
Hey Sube
Once again thanx for your efforts. The nulling during pinpointing when it is near the surface drove me crazy when i first got my CTX3030.
I live in Canada and our modern clad is mostly steel...94% if my memory is correct.
Even our loonies and twonies behave in a similar fashion when they are on or very near the surface. I also believe that they have recently changed their composition so that the also contain more steel. Nickel plated steel for the $2.00 and brass plated steel for the $1.

When I posted my initial observations I got very little response and I thought my detector had a problem because I had never seen any other detector null during pinpointing.

Anyways it made it very difficult for me to pinpoint modern clad. I did not purchase the CTX to hunt clad, but the $1 and $2 coins are nice to find.

The nulling occurs down to about a depth of 2" depending on the coin.
 
I have notice this also when I engage pinpoint sizing a foot away this happens but if you engage it right over the target it narrows the signal down and easier to locate must be tuning to that spot .
But when I got off the target pinpointing at that exact spot the detector would blare where ever I would go so it had to be reset seems to be tuning to that spot . sube
 
That is what bugs me about pinpoint - how it matters so much where you engage it and how long you have had it on. Why is this? What makes it fade out and could Minelab add a fix to keep it up?
 
That is what bugs me about pinpoint - how it matters so much where you engage it and how long you have had it on. Why is this? What makes it fade out and could Minelab add a fix to keep it up?

Are you in pinpoint target trace or pinpoint sizing in pinpoint target trace the signal is de tuned to the spot the more times you press the trigger till you loose the signal pinpoint sizing with target trace stays on all the time and can't be de tuned to loose the coin but I think it still tuning to that spot only .

check and see which one your engaging . sube
 
bklein said:
That is what bugs me about pinpoint - how it matters so much where you engage it and how long you have had it on. Why is this? What makes it fade out and could Minelab add a fix to keep it up?

Turn on pinpoint sizing. (It's off by default.)
Normal pinpoint mode 'fades out' by design.
Pinpoint sizing doesn't 'fade'.

:)
mike
 
I watched that latest video 4x over the past few days when I couldn't get out to hunt and finally started to make some sense about how I'd use it in real conditions. I went out tonight for an hour to a site that has had multiple homes on it dating back to the 1700s until as recently as 1930 or so. I pulled 4 large cents out of there last year dating back to 1794, a half cent, a bayonet, and loads of military and nonmilitary colonial buttons, but I haven't dug a coin out of there since last April. I went back tonight with Sube's video in the back of my head, especially the difference in 90 degree sweeps, and started gridding out an area at 90 degrees from what I normally do. This area is so infested with square nails that you can run the pinpointer over the ground and pick up nails even from the surface. I know there were coins still left here and that they might be deep because literally every coin (including the indians and wheats that also came from here) I've dug out of this site has been at 4" or less.

Anyway, I hit a very questionable 12-47 one way, barely got it at all at 90 degrees, but it pinpointed real well. Ended up being a very nice looking 1816 large cent! Thanks for the pointers, Sube!
 
Get a honking big magnet and pick up those surface nails you will find a lot more , I'm making a video on the effects of masking should be done tomorrow it will open eyes especially newbies .
Glad to see you hit that largey :thumbup: sube
 
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