Couple of goodies from "hunted out" site...

[fwcrawford]

I called my buddy this morning and checked to see if he wanted to search around an old house where we have searched many times before, but I am still managing to get a few goodies now and then including the two Barber dimes (1916 and 1914) I found a few months ago.
The weather was perfect for some slow detecting and I took the Sovereign to see if I could squeeze out another goody or too and it didn't let me down.
The signals were few and most were falses from square nails, but I was running in manual sensitivity set around 2:00 and since I have not used this mode much, I figured I better dig at least some of the iffy signals.
The first coin signal I got was a surprise as it sounded loud like a recent loss and when I pinpointed and parted the grass to dig, there lay a 1956 Rosie right on top of the ground only being hidden by the standing grass!! Go figure that one out.
I later got another iffy signal that did get some high numbers on the ID,but would not lock in and almost sounded like a false.
I dug down and loosened a clod and when I removed it, I saw the edge of a coin sticking out of it. I went over to my buddy and showed him before removing it as I thought it may be a wheat penny or an Indian head cent judging by the depth it was found at.
I slowly split the clod only to see the Memorial imprint on it.. a 1964 penny!
A little while later I dug another signal like that one and found a 1961 penny that was about as deep as the first one.
No wheat pennies or Indian head cents this trip,but later I got another signal that got my curiosity up enough to think that there may be something there mixed with iron.
I dug down and found a 1946 Rosie that was only about 2 or 3 inches down, but there was also a piece of iron strap about 1/2" wide and 1" long trying to mask it, but the Sovereign could see the coin.
I think having the high sensitivity setting not only amplified the coin, but also amplified the iron making for a very iffy signal and not like the other signals I have gotten from coins mixed in with iron.
I need to work with the manual sensitivity some more, but after todays hunt, I am getting comfortable with at least trying it some more.
Like I said in earlier posts, this Sovereign continues to impress the heck out of me.
I have found 8 coins from this site long after it has been written off by others.
Thanks for looking,
Felix

 

[GunnarMN]

that paid off bro , nice to find any silver

 

[JimmyCT]

Hi Felix,

Nice finds on the silver! You are so right on with saying the iron was amplified too. I just made a post of my finds and that is what happened for me too. Soon as I dialed down the sensitivity to 3pm things smoothed right out for me. The coins came right through and were much more stable in audio & meter ID. When I cranked it up around noon and to the C in Cancel targets broke up for me. I am learning more sensitivity is not neccessarily better.When finding a target I do adjust the sensitivity to see the effects of increasing / decreasing. I have learned in the field that too much sensitivity really degrades the signals to where they act like iron. Soon as I back off, I find (like I mentioned above) the signals become "clearer / sharper and more stable.

since people have written it off, it just leaves more for you

- Jim




I dug down and found a 1946 Rosie that was only about 2 or 3 inches down, but there was also a piece of iron strap about 1/2" wide and 1" long trying to mask it, but the Sovereign could see the coin.
I think having the high sensitivity setting not only amplified the coin, but also amplified the iron making for a very iffy signal and not like the other signals I have gotten from coins mixed in with iron.
I need to work with the manual sensitivity some more, but after todays hunt, I am getting comfortable with at least trying it some more.
Like I said in earlier posts, this Sovereign continues to impress the heck out of me.
I have found 8 coins from this site long after it has been written off by others.
Thanks for looking,
Felix[/quote]

 

[fwcrawford]

Hey Jim,
I will have to try adjusting the sensitivity on some of those iffy signals.
I wish I had done that some today as I may have passed up some good targets by the way the signals came in.
I figured that anything left now would be deep and that is why I ran manual sensitivity during this hunt.
Pretty ironic that figuring this was going to be the case, I found my first coin of the day lying right on top of the ground and silver at that!!
I can't figure that one out myself!!
This place really makes me scratch my head sometimes.
Felix

 

[JimmyCT]

Hi Felix,
There were several iffy signals (pretty strong in signal but semed like they wanted to come UP in tone / numerical ID) I could pinpoint and dig but wanted to see if I could get the signal to come up stronger in audio / meter ID. <--- this is with the sensitivity at 3pm. I would turn it UP to about 2pm and the signal would start acting much more like iron under the coil. Then I would turn it up to noon and it was like the signal spread and started to "disperse" Turning the dial to the 9am position, the target did "disperse" as if there was no target at all but little bits of junk iron. So this really opened my eyes to the "more sensitivity is better" as it actually loses good targets that could be much more easily identified by turning the senisitivity down. Although the targets may not be perfect in audio / meter reading, at 3pm sensitivity I could tell (much more easily) there was a coin in there -mixed right in the iron junk. At least that is what the scenario was for me. 3pm sensitivity was actually better then AUTO for clarity of signals. In all - yesterday was a very good learning curve for me.

Yep it does amaze me of the older coins sometimes lying right on top of the ground or only an inch or two below the surface.

I have a feeling there is much more at this place your hunting and feel the same for myself at the carnival field. I feel I just opened a "can of worms" with this little tornado 800. HH - Jim

Hey Jim,
I will have to try adjusting the sensitivity on some of those iffy signals.
I wish I had done that some today as I may have passed up some good targets by the way the signals came in.
I figured that anything left now would be deep and that is why I ran manual sensitivity during this hunt.
Pretty ironic that figuring this was going to be the case, I found my first coin of the day lying right on top of the ground and silver at that!!
I can't figure that one out myself!!
This place really makes me scratch my head sometimes.
Felix

 

[fwcrawford]

Jim,
I had such few signals yesterday that I didn't even think about playing with the sens. adjustment while checking them.
I will do this some at the old park to see what kind of results I get.
I think this will be a good testing ground as I believe there are still some good targets in there to experiment with.
I know there has been much discusion on the subject of sensitivity settings and up until yesterday, I mostly used auto as I seemed to be doing well with it and especially at locating good targets mixed with iron.
I had the sens. set a approx. 2:00 yesterday.
Had I readjusted it on some of the coin signals I located, perhaps the signal would have gotten better.
These signals were definately responding differently than all the coins I found last year that were were mixed in with nails and such...
Those signals really caught my attention whereas these took some time to work before I decided to dig.
Even those Barber dimes left little doubt as to whether it was a coin or not and I was running in auto at the time when these were found.
I will be able to get some more experience in with the Sovereign now that it is starting to cool down and I can get back to the old coin spots .
Felix

 

[JimmyCT]

Hi Felix,
you mention something rather "key" in your statement "These signals were definately responding differently than all the coins I found last year that were were mixed in with nails and such... Those signals really caught my attention whereas these took some time to work" It is almost like intuition that even though you worked the living day lights out of that iffy signal, you knew deep down by even the "tough" one way signal you eventually managed to pull from the matrix below - that there was a coin in the "pot" This is how it was for me. The signals were tough (numerous targets coins / iron nails & trash) but I just kept on working the signals and when the "hint" in rise of audio with the momentary 180 (or close to 180) displaying ( I got fooled a couple times by iron ) I knew I was on to a coin.

on the subject of sensitivity - I tried both AUTO and fooling around in manual. At the beginning of my hunt at the carnival grounds, (when I first encountered an iffy signal) I pulled out of AUTO and started "dialing" manual and noticed right around 3pm the signal became much "clearer" and "stronger" for me. it was as if AUTO was at its breaking point in diciphering whereas, in manual at 3pm, made the picture clear.
Its like driving down the highway while there is a light rain mist falling on your windshield. Before turning on your wipers you can still see the cars tail lights in front of you and you know that car is there....but turn your wipers on and boom! what a nice crystal clear picture you have! In my carnival hunt, that is what it was for me from AUTO to turning it to 3pm in manual. HH - Jim aka super dimeman

Jim,
I had such few signals yesterday that I didn't even think about playing with the sens. adjustment while checking them.
I will do this some at the old park to see what kind of results I get.
I think this will be a good testing ground as I believe there are still some good targets in there to experiment with.
I know there has been much discusion on the subject of sensitivity settings and up until yesterday, I mostly used auto as I seemed to be doing well with it and especially at locating good targets mixed with iron.
I had the sens. set a approx. 2:00 yesterday.
Had I readjusted it on some of the coin signals I located, perhaps the signal would have gotten better.
These signals were definately responding differently than all the coins I found last year that were were mixed in with nails and such...
Those signals really caught my attention whereas these took some time to work before I decided to dig.
Even those Barber dimes left little doubt as to whether it was a coin or not and I was running in auto at the time when these were found.
I will be able to get some more experience in with the Sovereign now that it is starting to cool down and I can get back to the old coin spots .
Felix

 

[Scaupus]

i recently got a sovereign, and buried a quarter about 10" to run a test. In auto it would not pick it up at all. With the sensitivity set below where threshold became unstable, about 1 oclock, i got a very definite high tone bump. I got the same bump set at 3:00, too. In all metal mode, the response was very clear. Interestingly, when I switched from all metal to discriminate, it took a couple of sweeps before it started picking it up again.

It's much better to set the sensitivity sensibly, I think, than to set it too high, or in Auto. I don't have any real experience with it yet, and maybe in some conditions, auto is better, I dont know.