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Could I Get a Little Pinpointing Help in High Trash/Iron Areas?

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I'm fairly new to TH'ing and MD'ing and I was wondering if anyone could give me a little help with Explorer pinpointing with the XS.
I working a high trash / high iron area and when I get a decent repeatable target I switch to pinpoint. As everyone knows, the XS switches to ALL METAL MODE for pinpointing and I'm never sure if I'm pinpointing the intended target or some piece of trash/iron that was initially nulled out by the descrim. I end up digging for ever and not finding anything but bits of iron.
Perhaps that's all that is actually there and I'm getting false iron signals anyway, and perhaps I really need to get a Sun Ray probe so I could do some in-hole pinpointing and still use the XS's discrim while doing it.
Anyway, any suggestions would be appreciated. BTW, I tried using the 90 degree discrim pinpointing method (as described by Sabisch) but can't seem to get the hang of it.
 
hey jason im new to the explorer too, but i have found that the 90 degree pinpoint is easier for me in the high trash area i hunt. keep practicing the method and it will become easy. another method i use in the trashy areas is getting the target centered in the middle of the coil then sliding the coil back while still making little sweeps and when the target disappears then going forward till it reappears and then the target is just at the edge of front of the coil by the minelab sticker. hope this helps, stick with it, it pays...guyt.
 
Throw a coin down and practice pinpointing it laying on top. The coins in the ground are in the same place under the coil.
marty-il
 
Jason,
I have been using Minelab since 1996 and once you get used to the pinpointing it is very easy to do. The Sovereign I could do real well and the Explorer I had to change my way a bit and found it too works excelent with the Sovereign.
First I get the repeatable signal I want and while in detect mode I will swing the coil side to side and narrow the target down while bringing the coil back to me untill it disapears and being I know how wide the signal was by narrowing it down I just push the coil ahead and back ( I dont have to go side to side anymore)to get a signal to come and go and narrow it down too. Now I can see where the target is as it will be on the front edge of the coil and look at that spot and come at it from a 45 or 90 degree angle and see if it is still there at that same spot, if it is then this is where the target is plus i can tell it is a good one and not a false off of iron as it will move if iron . when I go to pinpoint I know the only area I want to pinpoint that target only as it has to be there. In some cases there is iron on both side of the accual target and may make it harder to pinpint, but being you know the accual target location by doing the 90 degrees pinpoint you know the area it should be.
If doing the 45 or 90 degrees turn and the signal nulls or moves it is probably iron falses, but to be on the safe side i will go all around it and see if I can get it more than one way to sound good in the same spot. Some are questionable and I will dig them too to be on the safe side as one of those turned out to be a war nickle, a buffalo nickle, a merc and 2 wheaties in one hole with a rusty bottle caps on Sunday. It sounded differnt but was repeatable and doing the pinpoint I described I dug a plug and it was right in the center of it.
Good luck and it does take some time to understand the Explorer and its pinpoint, but it is good when you have had some experience with it.
Rick
 
Rick has alot of good tips in his post. I would also suggest grabbing a few rusty nails, coins, and head to your backyard. That's what helped me in iron ALOT is laying coins at different places on the ground (at varying distances) and I found out where the Explorer gave the most reliable signal. Most of the time the 'sweet' spot on the stock coil is around the Minelab logo but occasionally the coin will hit at the back of the coil. If you're swinging the coil from 6 o'clock I move to 7 or 8 o'clock and try to re-pinpoint where I think the coin is. If it seems to move some it's probably iron. But, I would dig some of those types of signals until your confident in identifying iron falses. Good Luck!
-Bill
 
Thanks to everyone who replied. I'm starting to get the hang of it now with the advice and some practice. I went to a park today that wasn't so "trashy" and it worked a lot better.
<STRONG>When they finally invent a metal detector that can detect iron falses vs. good targets, we're all in for a good time!!!</STRONG>
 
Practice. Practice. Practice... <img src="/metal/html/biggrin.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=":D"> You'll get better around iron and pinpointing. You start to pickup on the little hints that it's iron. I still dig an occassional rusty nail. Iron objects that are circular or are bent in an angle will almost always give a good coin signal that is almost impossible to tell from a coin. If you aren't digging some trash you're passing up coins.
-Bill
 
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