Cortes and DeLeon?

[Mick in Dubbo]

Do these machines have a pinpoint mode? Couldn't find any info that they do.
Thanks.
Mick Evans.

 

[rentasquid]

if you go into all-metal(I'm speaking of the Cortes, in which I have experience)you get the increase in volume as you cross over the target. But it isnt really a no-motion pinpoint, in that it will quickly tune the target out if you dont keep moving back and forth. Not sure what the Deleon does. Most people pinpoint by just Xing over the target.

J.

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

That sounds a little disappointing. Is the signal fairly tight, so as to allow a good easy pinpoint? The reason I ask, is because I had a bad experience with my first detector ( a Bounty Hunter Tracker 4).
It had no pinpoint mode either, and as I had no one to show me how to use it, despite my best efforts at Xing the spot,I never seemed to be able to recover my targets. This caused me to put the detector away in the cupboard for 2 yrs a very nearly giving up on the hobby altogether.
Mic Evans.

 

[rentasquid]

but you dont have to use the pinpoint mode to do it well! It X's the best of any detectors, which I think is because of their smaller receiver coil. Even with the Tesoros that have better dedicated pinpoint modes(than the Cortes), I always stayed in Disc and X'ed over the target and could find them easily. I know what you mean about the Tracker IV's. I had one and couldnt pinpoint with it either. I got a Cortes, and it became sooooo easy to recover targets, because of its superior ability to pinpoint targets. Hope this helps, because I dont mean to demean the Tesoros in any way. They are excellent performing detectors. Its just that if you are looking for a pinpoint mode that operates just like the Xterras, in the Cortes or Deleon, you wont find it.

J.

 

[Scully]

Personally, I think tesoro machines pinpoint so well I never use the Pinpoint mode (all metal mode), I never have to. Even on bigger targets, all you have to do is lift the coil off the ground while sweeping. Eventually you will get it to the point were you only get a beep over a very small area.

Scully

 

[Eddie(AL)]

Rentasquid,

I'll have to agree with you on the pinpointing. I have a Cibola and the pinpoint mode requires you to keep moving or it will detune the target. Coming from Whites pinpoint technology that uses a non-motion method I was disappointed. Why have a pinpoint mode where you have to X the target when it works just as well in the discrimination mode? I guess that's just a Tesoro characteristic.

 

[JHM]

I have a vaquero and I was used to using a Quattro. It took a couple of weeks to get used to the way the V pinpoints. Now ,I don't even use the pinpoint mode and I believe I could hit most targets with a screwdriver.

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

Thank you everybody for your input. It has been very helpful.
J. I am using the pinpoint modes that I describe as a point of reference; comparison; as that is all I am aware of at the moment. I was kinda hoping someone could describe something similar to what you just have. This gives me the confidence to move towards looking at purchasing one a little down the track. As soon as finances will allow. At the moment, the Tesoro's have really got my attention and I wanted to know more about them. Now I do, thanks to everyone here.
All the best to everyone,
Mick Evans.

 

[JHM]

I don't know very much about the cortez. I do like my minelab also. I bought the vaquero to use in heavy trash. It's a beep detector (no number ID). The quattro gives better target ID but the reset time is slower and masking can be a problem. I dig more aluminum with the Tesoro and iron gives some problems with the minelab. I guess it depends where you hunt. The Quattro was HARD to learn. I almost gave up on it but a year later I like it. Sounds like things cost a lot where you live . Feel free to reply if I can help.

 

[Mike Hillis]

the Cortes non-motion mode pinpoints well.

Sometimes folks have problems with MOTION all metal modes because you have to pinpoint the same with them as you would with the Disc mode. The Tracker IV all metal mode is a motion mode so if you couldn't pinpoint in Disc mode then you wouldn't be able to in All metal.

Now the Cortes has a NO-MOTION all metal mode with VCO audio and it pinpoints just as well as a dedicated pinpoint feature. Except it works even better because you still get a target ID as long as it's in range.

If you don't have an no-motion mode to use for pinpointing then all you can do is practice until you learn how....or take up flying electric planes....want to buy a helicopter? I'm a much better pinpointer than pilot

HH

 

[rentasquid]

in that I dont think the Cortes is REALLY a non-motion pinpointer. I say that because of it detuning over your target. If it were really non-motion, you could hang it over the target without motion, and it would continue to give you the presence of a target with an audible signal. Its been a couple of years since I've had the Cortes, but doesnt it also just get louder when you pass it over the target, rather than get louder and change in pitch, ala the Tejon?

J.

 

[Mike Hillis]

Yes, you are right. A true-dedicated-pinppoint mode wouldn't have as fast as a retune as the Cortes no motion mode does. It will detune the target in a second or two if held stationary over it as it returns to threshold. Tesoro most likely determined that a manual retune switch would make it hard to hunt in the all metal mode and so went with the fast autotune.

Also I didn't say anything about the overshoot nulls
On my first one, when you overshot the target it would null out and go silent for about a half second before the threshold tone would return. However the slightest movement back toward the target would give a response. You can still size and pinppoint with it. Its not as bad as it may sound. Just different I don't know if that one was the original retune or the speeded up one I'll find out soon enough when I can get my next one in hand.


HH

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

Great info guys. Sounds a ton better than the Tracker4.
Oh. By the way Mike. Nothing wrong with electric model planes. That is about to be one of my next hobbies. I was a hairs whisker from buying a simple RC helicopter on the weekend. I'll allow myself to weaken after Christmas. I've had a strong interest in flying as well, and hope to be able to afford some form of flying within the next 12 months.
Mick Evans.

 

[Mike Hillis]

Don't try to learn to fly the heli in the living room

The missus will NOT appreciate it

I got a Blade CP. pretty neat but not for me. I'm going to stick to telescopes and metal detectors

HH

 

[rentasquid]

It has always been my plan to get into Radio Control aircraft. I started building a trainer years ago, but never have finished it. It is a really cool hobby, but unlike MDing, it doesnt pay you back, and you have a tendency to crash your planes as you learn.

J.

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

You sound like me! I was given a trainer plane to build on my 16th birthday. I finally finished it 2 years ago. It is now 24years old. It still hasn't Flown! much to the disgust of a good friend of mine I actually came into contact with a member of the local model plane club on Saturday, only to find out that they fly at a time that I simply can't get there! So I think that I will buy some very slow and small indoor models and fly them in the back yard in stead, or somewhere suitable.
Mick Evans.

 

[Mick in Dubbo]

Yeah. They can be real little tricky blighter's to learn. Enjoy your telescope. We've got some really big optical and radio ones within a hundred miles from here. Siding Springs to the north (optical) and the Parks Radio Telescope to the south.
Mick Evans,