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CoRe or Relic for coin hunting?

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KurtB

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In the videos that I have watched the Relic seems to be a little noisier than the CoRe. I had a F75 when they first came out and the thing about drove me nuts. I guess what I'm asking is one more stable than the other. The soil around where I hunt is pretty tame here in SE Nebraska. Old country school and house sites are my main stopping grounds. Just trying to get some first hand info. to make my decision. If one had an arrowhead program I would get it.

One other thing. On one of the Impact ads. i saw a small football shaped coil, 4x7 I'm guessing. Any news of these coils being made to work with the CoRe and Relic. Would sure be nice.

Thanks for any replies.
 
I've got both the CoRe and the Relic. I have found lots of coins with each. The Relic has more tuning options.

Dean
 
The relic detector can be made noisier vs CoRe with increased gain setting.

You do have tone break setting capabilities using 2 tone and. 3 tone using relic,,not so with CoRe.

I have found coins with both.
 
squirrel1 said:
The relic detector can be made noisier vs CoRe with increased gain setting.

You do have tone break setting capabilities using 2 tone and. 3 tone using relic,,not so with CoRe.

I have found coins with both.
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The Relic is a 19kHz unit and , therefore, more susceptible to EMI and ground noise making it "noisier" if not set up properly. I rarely use high gain (sensitivity) settings opting, instead, to keep it at or near the factory default of 50 which makes for a quiet running machine. I don't believe you can go wrong with either one. You may want to consider waiting for a few weeks and buy the Impact, which, according to the early reports from the testers, is like having all of the previous Nokta units, and then some, rolled in to one unit.

Dean
 
I was wondering about the higher kHz machines. I have been using a Xterra 70 for years and the 3kHz coils are very good at getting old coins at depth. With all the new detectors out these days it seem the technology has advanced (way faster than me) to the point that it might be time to give it a shot. Some day I imagine you will be able to download an app to your iphone, attach it to a stick and go metal detecting. Thanks for your input. I appreciate it.

Kurt
 
I went with the relic when I was on your same hunt for a new machine.
Yes khz are higher but that also means gold hits hard too.
The way I saw it the relic was a core with deep and swift mode (trashy lightning fast recovery) yes it's higher khz, but it's a great machine. If it's chatty, just turn down the sensitivity. Easy.
And the changeable tone break is nice.
Racer 2 is great too but different. But for the pro pack price you can get an impact pro pack for 50 more .
The relic comes with 2 coils for the 679 which is a great deal. I got the 5.5x10 DD as well and it's a great all around coil. Separates like a 5 but covers like a 10. Best of both worlds. But before I got that coil I did really well with the stock in more open places and the 5" for trashier areas.

Nowadays unless I'm hunting a place that I've already got and need to go deeper, I set my sensitivity pretty low. First time I dug can slaw at 14" I turned it down haha

Either way both are great from what I've heard of the core.
The relic does have a smaller iron area 0-20 where the core is 0-40. So with the relic targets are spread out more which is what I like. I've heard that people had an issue with everything good coming in in the 80s. The relic is not like that. And when I first bench tested, it was spot on the numbers in the manual.
Out in the field that may change by masking by other junk.

But I'm very happy with my relic. Hope to be able to afford the impact, but my budget won't allow it right now
 
Thanks for the response. Just the kind of info. I was looking for. Should be some used Relics on the classifieds when the Impact comes out.
 
KurtB said:
Thanks for the response. Just the kind of info. I was looking for. Should be some used Relics on the classifieds when the Impact comes out.
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And if I remember correctly from dilek, the warranty is transferrable as long as you have the paperwork it came with. So whatever is left on the 2 years is yours.
 
dbado1 said:
squirrel1 said:
The relic detector can be made noisier vs CoRe with increased gain setting.

You do have tone break setting capabilities using 2 tone and. 3 tone using relic,,not so with CoRe.

I have found coins with both.
Click to expand...

The Relic is a 19kHz unit and , therefore, more susceptible to EMI and ground noise making it "noisier" if not set up properly. I rarely use high gain (sensitivity) settings opting, instead, to keep it at or near the factory default of 50 which makes for a quiet running machine. I don't believe you can go wrong with either one. You may want to consider waiting for a few weeks and buy the Impact, which, according to the early reports from the testers, is like having all of the previous Nokta units, and then some, rolled in to one unit.

Dean
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You are correct.

Relic detector more sparky vs CoRe

But this same reasoning,,,wait till you use Impact.
Not as noisy as Relic when in the iron and nails.
Yet it performs nicely as far as separation and unmasking.
 
KurtB,
I just sold my beloved X-Terra 70. I had all of the various freq coils. Great machine that was years a head of its time. It started being used less and less after I bought the Core and then not at all after I bought the Relic. The biggest difference between the two ( X-TERRA and Relic) is the processing speed of the Relic in iron infested sites. Simply amazing! I had old sites that just couldn't be effectively hunted with the X-TERRA because it's processor was just too slow. The Relic's unmasking ability especially when used with the small coil is awesome.

Dean
 
I agree Dean.
Pretty amazing. They say it's like having a "live feed" as far as recovery. Almost no lag at all.
 
squirrel1 said:
You are correct.

Relic detector more sparky vs CoRe

But this same reasoning,,,wait till you use Impact.
Not as noisy as Relic when in the iron and nails.
Yet it performs nicely as far as separation and unmasking.
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In trashy sites the Impact with its small 4X7¾" DD coil is deadly and on the quieter side like the FORS CoRe. Even when you use 20 kHz to about match the 19 kHz Relic it is a little more tame in the noise department. That said, all three of these models continue to impress me when I challenge them with other detectors friends have or I have borrowed to check and compare.

Monte
 
Thanks Monte. Do you ever see Nokta making that 4x7 coil for the other models? Seems like they would sell very well.
 
KurtB said:
Thanks Monte. Do you ever see Nokta making that 4x7 coil for the other models? Seems like they would sell very well.
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I have had PM's and e-mails from both Makro racer series users and Nokta FORS series users wondering the same thing. I have heard anything about a new 4X7¾ DD coil like that on the Impact for the other Nokta and Makro series models.

Me? I have long preferred a Concentric coil, but for over two years now I have been using the excellent Racer and FORS series models with their DD coils, except for the 5½X10 Concentric mid-sized coil I keep on one of the FORS Relic units I bought. I would like to see another Concentric coil or two in a smaller-size.

Also, I have favored a round-shaped coil over any elliptically-shaped smaller coil. The Impact, not having a small round coil but with a measured 4X7¾ DD small coil, kind of forced me to have to use one since I prefer smaller-size coils for about 90% of my detecting since sites are usually very trashy, but for now the Impact's offering is a small elliptical shape..

Well, I have reached a conclusion: I still prefer a smaller round [size=small](or almost round 'OOR')[/size] coil like I have for the detectors I carry and use, BUT I have taken a strong liking to the small elliptical Impact coil. It has been performing splendidly in all of the trashy sites I have found to hunt so far and hasn't let me down isolating keepers in dense trash.

I guess I can see why so many people like this shape search coil. Honestly I think some is more of a visual illusion as to how much coverage there might be or what depth they think they might achieve, or maybe just the appearance of a smaller round-shaped coil leave some feeling that they are too small to work well. Regardless, this Impact coil is a very good performing coil and I don't doubt many would like to see this size hooked to the end of their Racer 2, FORS CoRe or FORS Relic rod. Maybe if enough people asked the Nokta / Makro 'team' about it, and if they felt there was sufficient interest or demand, they just might make such a coil. Why knows?

Monte
 
I put in a vote for a smaller elliptical!!!
If we are asking, I'd love to have a concentric one too!!!
 
Yes , I agree. In some instances the concentric will unmask better at depth better than a DD. I would take either one though.

Kurt
 
I prefer the Relic ID spread over the CoRe. Also Iron Volume - once you have it, it's hard to go back :detecting:

Also feel the Relic cuts through mineralisation a bit better, that could be due to the slightly higher frequency.?..?
 
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