I'm not nerdy enough to know how to post a YouTube video's URL (but would love to learn!) Anywho, there's a cool, funny one of a guy named VOLP using a Compadre on the beach, and then shooting his targets with a slingshot band and pouch, then finding his steel shot with the Compadre. It's a side hobby I'm into and this guy knows how to make videos- I've watched all his. Type in " Metal detector and frameless slingshot". These guys actually use their forward hand as the frame for the slingshot! A few weeks ago I had a nice bruise to prove NOT to use steel shot to learn!