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Considering buying Explore SE Pro

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TreasureHawk

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Thinking about getting an Explorer SE Pro.
Any thoughts both positive and negative would be appreciated.

I was concerned about the recovery speed. Any thoughts about recovery speed.

Should I also look at the E-Trac?

Thanks.

Robert
 
I have never tried an ETrac, but I can highly recommend the Explorer. A killer detector once you master the learning curve. And you would have lots of technical support on this, and the Minelab Classroom forum.
 
The SE is a little heavy to swing all day. It may have slow recovery but the depth is well worth it. Its a killer silver machine and you can get an inline probe from Ralph. It takes some time to learn what the machine is telling you and some people thinks there is way to many tones at first. The ET is much easier to learn out of the box and has a few nice bells.... but for the price it should. What do you plan on using it for? That could make a difference as well. Its recovery is slow but it handles about any soil and can hunt in areas with EMI that many fast recovery machines have a problem with. Its multi freq so it can also be used on the wet/dry beach sand. Something MOST VLT machines cant. Is it going to pick up micro gold NO.... but its not a gold bug. However..... you would be surprised how small of targets it finds especially on a beach. Its just a darn good all around machine..

Dew
 
I just got mine in the mail a few weeks ago and decided to rename it R2D2 from all the sounds I was getting.. It drove me nuts so I shut it down until I can get some proffesional help learning how to use it. Cliff
 
LOL Cliff..... put the coil on the soil thats the only way to learn it. Dig it all for awhile especially the repeatable ones..... wont take long to know trash from treasure. Hope you find someone close to help you out because its a great machine. I see way to many people selling it before they really learn it. My moto.... never sell a machine until its paid for its self.

Dew
 
Thanks, I like that saying, I'll pass it onto R2D2 Explorer SE Pro.. I plan on keeping it for awhile or at least until it pays for itself.. Cliff
 
The machine definitely has a slow recovery speed but you can compensate for that by slowing your swing speed down, which is a good thing to do as it is a heavy machine as well so swinging slower reduce the strain on your arm and shoulder. In fact a saying that I always thought was a good when when you are swinging an explorer is "swing low and slow".

The real reason to buy an SE Pro is its superior target ID and discrimination abilities. That is where the FBS machines really shine. Plus as pointed out in another post they are great all around machines since they handle tough soil and salt water beaches excellently.
 
unless you hunt by using visual ID first instead of sound...which you probably shouldn't be doing anyway.

The key to learning the Explorers....any of them...is 100% sound and sound alone.

The screen should only be used as a visual aid in helping you decide whether or not to dig only after you have gotten a certain tone that sounds good to you depending on what you are searching for..

The sweet "explorer high warble" on silver coins is unmatched by any other machine.

Even my E-trac doesn't get that same "high warble"...and although it's a super machine...I prefer the Explorers because of their unique sound.

If the processor isn't fast enough for you...you can always run with the fast setting "on".

I don't even do that though...even when hunting in heavy trash.

I just put on a small coil and slow down to a crawl...with fast "off".

The reason I do that is because I feel with it on...the sweet signal I listen for gets "chopped" short.

Just my personal preference...but trust me...there's nothing "slow" about the audio ID on the explorers. It is lightning quick to me.

So much so that when I tried my first explorer 10 years or so ago...I heard so many sounds so fast...I wanted to wrap it around a tree:clapping:
 
I agree fully with the last few posts. YES -- the Explorers really shine in their ability to handle tough soil, and give superior ID with depth; YES, they like to be swung slow, and YES, recovery speed is fine. I AGREE that at times, the visual ID is slow to update -- when the machine is barraged with targets under the coil, it's trying to arrive at a solid ID and thus is slow to update visually...BUT -- as was said, the tones are instantaneous.

Steve
 
So to get started with this machine what would I set it up on before I start swinging it on a slow mood? I have a White MXT and enjoy it very much, but I want to try this Explorer SE Pro minelab..
 
Low and slow, sounds like I might be able to eat it once I'm finished smoking it, low and slow the way I cook my ribs.. Okay! I have to change my style of detecting while resting from my white mxt.. Help me out on the settings so I can get started.. Thanks! Have a great day! Cliff
 
Its easy..buy it learn it and listen to Bryce..life is simple. I love mine..read the Andy Sabisch book from front to back and I always listen to Bryce..found me my first silver recently thanks to him.
 
I believe I can truly shorten your learning curve as well as cut down on the level of frustration that might pop up.

LEAVE it in the factory preset conductive sounds settings.. while hunting in the smartfind screen for at least 5 to 10 full hunts.

Don't mess with anything for some time. Those preset settings are there for a reaon...and that reason is to help new users adapt to the language the SE speaks.

IMHO the worst thing a new explorer user can do is switch anything at all...especially switch back and forth between conductive and ferrous sounds.

That will completely change what you hear and how you hear it over deep coins....and probably confuse you at this point.

Take your time...swing very slow...and do NOT worry about anybody's settings right now. There is a crucial time frame where you have to spend some quality time with your new friend...the SE...and nobody else. That time is the first few hunts.

Pay close attention to the barrage of sounds you hear...the nulling...the instability...etc...and don't get frustrated.

Oh...and did I say swing slow??....I meant very slow.

Anyone who has ever hunted with me will tell you I absolutely creeeeeep.

ONLY 2 things I would even consider changing from the stock factory learning settings which is pretty much a coin program....

1) possibly set the iron mask at -22 on the SE while continuing to hunt in smartfind screen(-6 on XS and EX2).

2) The only other thing I would consider changing would be to put the sensitivity in semi auto and set it at 26 which will GREATLY cut down on the falsing and chirping..

Both of those change suggestions do not even need to be made IMHO...but if you must tinker...then tinker with only those two things.

Everything else....I strongly recomend leaving alone for a few weeks...and leaving it in the factory preset settings.

Do NOT try too much too fast...just have FUN.

These Explorers are more than capable of hitting 8"+ deep coins right out of the box in the factory preset mode.

Once you have quite a few hours on it...and have familiarized yourself with the "language" it speaks...then you can start to piddle with settings if need be.

You might even decide at that point that you want to give ferrous sounds/AM a shot. That is a proven method as well.

For now though...trust me...leave it as I suggested for a few hunts...then when things start to click a little...you can start piddling and tinkering

Of all the things I get asked about through messages...this is the number one thing...and my advice never changes.

I think it's a big mistake for new users to get caught up in what other's settings are and they try too much too fast...then get discouraged and sell the Explorer.

Just take your time...enjoy...and get a "feel" for the explorer before taking big leaps...and the learning curve will lessen a bunch.

After a few weeks or 5 to 10 full hunts...whichever comes first....then start pickin' the brains of everyone on this forum for tips...suggestions...advice...settings to try...etc. This place is a wealth of knowledge and there a ton of talented hunters here who will help you in whatever way you need.
 
Wow! Thanks for all the input of info in helping me out with my new machine. I've written everything down to us as I start my hunt today. And "Thanks" TreasureHawk for starting this topic with your new Explorer SE Pro. Sorry I butted in but was desperate for some help with my new sounding machine and "Thanks" to all of you that stepped in to share your thoughts to help me..Cliff
 
Lots of great advice here. Bryce is right on the $ with what he suggested. It will help you learn it WAY faster!

Holler if you have questions or looking for a great deal! Thanks, Bart.
 
Cliff, sent you a PM. We can try to hook up soon and get ya rollin!
 
No disrespect intended...but why would I waste my time laying a nail and dime out in top of the ground to perform some type of meaningless test? I have found 100's of silver coins laying in iron..on...around...close to..next to...beside...beneath...etc as deep as 10" in actual in field hunts with explorers..so why would I worry about what a T2 does with two objects placed on top of the ground which isnt even something I would encounter in a hunt anyway?
His question was pertaining to the recovery speed of the SE....not the SE compared to a T2 with objects placed on the ground...which isnt even a real hunt scenario. Thats like saying a Mustang is slow...which it is not....then comparing it to a formula 1 car. The Etrac even has a slightly faster processor...but that doesnt mean the explorer is slow. There was really no need to turn this persons post into a debate or comparison with another detector?
 
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