Concensus? Which is the better detector? CZ3D; Coinstrike; CZ70?

[jbow]

Or another Fisher? I have an F75 and am looking for a good detector to use with the F75 inland, mostly for coin hunting. I love to hunt old coins but most of the sites I find, while old, are also newer and have aluminum trash. So, I am not sure if the 3D would be the best choice. I get the idea that it is better if the site is pre-1950s without a lot of aluminum trash and pulltabs.
I am considering either a CS or a 3D but I have never used any Fisher besides the F75, which I will never sell.... I love it but want another detector for coins and relics, (mostly coins). A detector to use with the F75. I also have a Tejon, which is a keeper. I use the Tejon in some situations to relic hunt and it will hunt coins but... well, you know how it is.

Also, how is the weight and balance of these detectors?

Thanks,

J

 

[christopher-ohio]

I have had all you mentioned except the F-75. I have two CZ-70's and that's all. I have used numerous Coinstrikes and CZ-3D's very successfully but I still love my CZ-70's overall the most for hunting all types of sites, especially for old coins; once you really understand what's it's telling you, you almost know what you're digging up before you dig...JMHO...HH

 

[Hotcz70]

my SE and the cz gets equal hunt time.

 

[RLOH]

J, I like Christopher have had all three of the detectors. They are all very good in their own envirement, but if I had to chose only one, it would be the 70. It is deep and has the shortest learning curve. I currently own a 70 and a C$. I use the C$ in trash and the 70 in moderate trash or more open sites. I can get very close to 70 depth with the C$, but the 70 will bring finds from extreme depths with a very distinct high tone. The 3d seems slightly confusing to some when you mix in modern trash. I never had that problem. The shortcoming I had with the 3d is on very deep coins, I could not get any audio when pinpointing. In other words, it detected deeper than the pinpoint would work. The 70 is deep and when I get that 8 to 10 inch coin, it always gives an audio signal in pinpoint. You seem to have enough detectors to cover all bases now. When I get more than two detectors, the extras seem almost useless. If I had to pick only one, it would be the 70 with the stock 8 inch coil and a 5 inch coil. I never saw any use for the bigger coils with a CZ. Only my narrowminded opinions. R.L.

 

[Everett Cavanah]

RLOH has it right on.

 

[jmaryt]

yes!..i agree!..the 70 is a terrific coin sniper!..it has one drawback,and that is it is NOT in my opinion,balanced well with the control box on the rod!..if you hip mount it,or chest mount it,then it becomes much easier to work with!..it's coin finding ability ,and simple operating procedure makes it a winner!..extremely deep,and accurate,however does indeed LOVE deep iron!..this CAN be overcome by listening very closely,and sweeping the coil from all angles,however it may STILL sound
good,and you will WANT to dig it,especially,of course if the target is deep!..except for the balance problem,which again,is MY opinion,it is an overall excellent detector for coins!

(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[jbow]

n/t

 

[christopher-ohio]

I have had so many different CZ-70's over the years for testing. Honestly, I have found that some machines false much more than others on deep iron...the same goes for CZ-3D's...some are fine in iron, others have been a nightmare but overall it's how you adjust your sensitivity and proper ground balancing for most of the machines...HH

 

[Nick A]

I had a CZ5 that got stolen. I replaced it with a 3D and later got a 70 and a CS. I have come to use the 3D ALL the time. The Sunray inline probe is the best $180 ever spent. I liked the CZ5 best of all, super hot on nickels. The 3D has taken a little getting used to - definitely will find old and deep coins, just don't turn the sens up too high! And nowhere near the nickels I used to get with that CZ5. I would probably like the CS better if I had the inline probe. Could not pinpoint worth crap with it. The 70 is nice because you can notch out zinc pennies at a modern site.

So, which is the better detector? The one you feel most comfortable with and take the time to learn and know as an extension of your arm and ears. Also depends on what you want to find with it. All three are good machines and I would say they are all about equal as far as depth and abilities. But...

I've watched experienced Explorer users pull out seated dimes, indian heads and shield nickels from hunted out parks here and I still have yet to find my first seated in these parks with a CZ (after probably 14 years of using any CZ in these same spots). It's not so much the depth, it's the accuracy of the signal at depth.

Deep coins for me on the CZ usually are iron-coin bounce. Which makes it tough. Generally if it has any good sound in it, and it's deep, I'll dig it. Shovel is best discriminator...

Hope that helps you. As I said all three machines are excellent, and the Sunray probe is definitely worth every penny. Go with whichever one you can get the best deal on. Lots of nice used CS out there, some with extra coils too - because people who bought them thought they'd be like a CZ and they're not... different animal.

 

[jbow]

I am trying to decide what to sell and what to buy. The detectors I am keeping for sure are the F75, the Cortes, and the Tejon. I have a SovereignGT that was my first machine. I liked it until I bought a Tejon and a T2, then I realized how heavy, slow, and usless it is in heavy iron.I have tried and tried to rekindle my love for it but I cannot do it. I am going to sell the GT and the T2 and I want a machine that is deep and will compliment the ones I am keeping. I have it down to either a CZ or an Explorer SE. It's a toss up but I am beginning to think that the Explorer might be the one to fill the gap. Then a CZ-21 for saltwater and i'll be set for a while...


Thanks for the help.

Julien