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Compilation Of Explorer ID Charts

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Critterhunter

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Not sure if this should be posted in the Explorer Classroom forum or not, so forgive me if it should have been and feel free to move it.

A friend who has an SE Pro on the way took the time to compile together various ID charts off the web into one massive one. Yes, of course the audio is key and the first and final decision on digging or not, and most Explorer guys who even bother with the VDI prefer to use the Smart Find screen and watch the cursor for hints, but just the same he's new to detecting and this chart he made should help him get up to speed faster.

By the way, I'm looking for any Smart Find screen clear overlay charts for him to also help him to get up to speed faster on that aspect of the machine. If anybody has any links to overlays he can print out and make himself please shoot me a link. I've done some searching but can't find anything. I've sent him a bunch of links to Bryce's excellent tips and setup suggestions too to help him along in learning this machine. Thanks for all the great info you've provided for people Bryce. :thumbup: Worth it's weight in gold...
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Nice chart .. thanks ! It makes me think that I should be digging more than I am ..
 
When i first started out coming from a digital screen machine using the digital screen slowed my learning i believe. Once i switched to the smartscreen and dug targets everything clicked more than those jumping numbers. Digging a target and comparing the digial reading to the smartscreen helped me most. The chart helps like McDave said to know some of the targets you havent found. Lot depends if you want to find more varity .... you have to be willing to dig more trash.

Dew
 
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I wonder if that's due to the noise channel selection? As I've read of tests done with the Explorer that found mid conductors were greatly altered in VDI readings if I remember right. Same deal happens on the GT if you switch to band 1. Nickels read a good bit higher (say 149 vs 144), while oddly it doesn't seem to effect stuff higher in conductivity on the VDI scale. All the charts for the Sov are done in band 2 on the GT for that reason, as it matches older Sovs which didn't have the ability to change channels and so appear to have been stuck in band 2.
 
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Neil, on my Explorer nickels will hit between10-05 and as high as14-07 for the older types like buffalos. I still dig nails like they are going out of style, but I have nickels pegged .. I love finding them.

Of course tone is everything, but I still use digital to ID penny types. Either way I don't pass very many pennies up anymore, since I dug a black hills gold and silver diamond ring that chimed-in as a clad memorial. :drool:
 
The work your friend has done compiling all those digital values should pay some dividends, however he should keep in mind that the deeper the good targets are, or any targets for that matter, the less reliable those values become. I hunt strictly in digital and on deeper targets I'm only looking for a range of values. I go by sound first, depth second and values last.
 
I also did a similar chart to the one above but much smaller. I then went over to using the smart screen as I found that the same coins on different beaches gave different readings depending on how wet the sand was but a 20p coin always gave the same numbers on fer & con from 4-4 to 11-11.
Now I tend to dig anything on the beaches with a good tone.
 
There you go Jan... Watch your screen as well for those high left signal... ALMOST in the iron range. Gold is so close to iron on a beach. Ive gotten V nickels in the lower right corner. Depth really changes the tagets.... take a look at Mike Moulties screens and how targets bounce. I never could get the digital screen to produce the true reading enough to use it on deep targets. I think a lot has to do with your settings and targets close to the surface.... a dime can even read close to a penny digitally. Magic man had some good reads too.... http://www.findmall.com/read.php?10,922673

Dew
 
Good Morning! I would like a copy of the Explorer ID Chart but could not seem to figure out a way to print from the screen. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
PM me your email address, as my friend has provided it to me in 3 formats- Excel, PDF, and Jpeg. He says Excel will print it out to proper size with less hassle I think. Right now he's updating the chart with I think relic target IDs and such too from another few he found as well, so when he sends me that I'll post a JPEG of it here. Findmall won't allow Excel or some other formats, but I *think* the way a picture blows up on here when you click on it might do funny things to JPEG sizes, thus the issues perhaps?

If anybody wants the 3 file formats, as well as then being able to edit the chart to customize it for yourself, PM me with your Email address and I'll shoot it to you when he has the latest version done. Make sure to mention which machine's chart you want, as he's done one for the Etrac and also spiffed up the looks of my compiled Sovereign chart from numerous other charts I compiled mine from along with my own readings.

He formatted these charts to obviously print out and then fold over, so that both sides of it are back to back when laminated.
 
A few things...

One, Critterhunter is exactly right (and McDave has noticed this too)...nickels range from 05 to 07 conductive, and MUCH DEPENDS ON WHICH NOISE CANCEL CHANNEL YOU ARE RUNNING. Low and mid conductivity items' CO values change the most when changing noise cancel, while higher CO stuff may only change by one value or so. I forget which end of the noise cancel scale results in higher or lower values, but do a test...set your noise cancel channel to 11, run a nickel, and then set it to 1, and run the nickel again. I bet you will get CO of 07, occasionally an 06, at one end of the noise cancel channel scale...consistent 06 numbers in the mid range of the scale, and a consistent 05 on the other end of the scale.

Also, someone mentioned wanting a clear copy...you could print this chart out on a piece of overhead projector film...remember those?!? If someone wants to, and doesn't have any overhead projector film, I can print out the chart for them on the film, and mail it to them. Just send me a PM.

Finally, this should work to print this out on paper -- click on the image; once the larger image opens, right click, and select "save image as," and save it to your desktop. Then, go to your desktop, open the image, and print it. That SHOULD work out OK...

Steve
 
My friend purchased an explorer s on e bay, his target id's are only conductive numbers, he is getting frustrated with the unit. I feel responsible because I encouraged him to bid on it, since I have read it has a very large learning curve. If any of you have had or do have the explorer s any helpful tips for a newbe would be greatly helpful. Do any of you have a coin ID chart for the S model or are they the same just no ferros numbers? I understand the S model is the first to come out, and since has been improved.
 
Dano -- I'm not familiar with the S, and so I don't know FOR SURE if the number on the digital screen (single digit representing the CO value) is the same as the "second digit" (the CO number) on a newer Explorer, but I am almost sure that is the case. The FE information is THERE, it's just not displayed on the digital screen. It IS there, though, tha machine produces it -- that's how the machine plots the smartfind screen cursor position on the matrix -- the CO number is the x-axis, and the FE number is the y-axis. It simply doesn't directly display the FE information on the digital screen. But, my point is, since the smartfind screen is the same as on newer Explorers, so it stands to reason that the values of the numbers used to create the smartfind screen's "matrix" (FE and CO) are the same.

Finally, here's a link to the owner's manual for the Explorer S and XS, on the website of one of our forum sponsors (Indian Nations Detectors) -- thanks Chuck! :)

http://www.indiannationsdetectors.com/files/Explorer_S_XS.pdf

Steve
 
Thank you for your responce. : ) I have Excel and PDF capability both so will happily take what ever you can pass on. My email address is dennisdcarr@earthlink.net. Have a great day.

Whoops---Forgot to mention that I have the Explorer II that I would like the chart for. Thanks!
 
Hey Critter, I had this overlay made from a post I copied off a forum back in the day when the Explorer first came out ( maybe this forum don't remember ) sorry don't have the link, but if you think it'll help you out let me know. HH All and may Spring get here SOOOON, Don
 
Sorry I had a Brain Fart this is from Andy's book Mastering the Minelab XS & S ( Great Book)
 
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