After weeks of thinking, I found a small gold chain and waved it in front of every metal detector I owned, in all metal, and Nothing-EXCEPT my '60's Garrett BFO, the dual-coil Hunter. Now I know it just sits in the corner and I'm surprised the electronics haven't become brittle-and I almost skipped even turning it on. But it picked up the tiny gold chain at 2'' easily. And, I won't have to worry about small nails, hairpins,etc., cause it's automatically, because of it's frequency, going to reject them. Will try sometimes this week and let you know if a bfo is my new tot-lot machine!
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Compadre stirs some soul-searching
- Thread starter slingshot
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I was told that the only part of a small gold chain you could detect is the clasp on the ends.
That chain it self is little pieces that are too small for the metal detector to detect.
That made sense to me until I found this gold chain with my Compadre. It has no clasp on
either end and it is tiny. My buddy at the local pawn shop verified that it is 10k gold. I found
it in wood chips. It was just below the surface. I don't think it would sink very far.
My Euro Sabre will detect it better than my Compadre. Euro gets 4" + on this chain.
If it's wadded up a little it gets it deeper.
My Silver Sabre uMax will only pick it up in the threshold based all metal pin point mode.
The Silver Sabre uMax has a threshold based AM pinpoint red button like the Cibola.
Here's a video to demonstrate the Compadre.
http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/dcb1265/?action=view
That chain it self is little pieces that are too small for the metal detector to detect.
That made sense to me until I found this gold chain with my Compadre. It has no clasp on
either end and it is tiny. My buddy at the local pawn shop verified that it is 10k gold. I found
it in wood chips. It was just below the surface. I don't think it would sink very far.
My Euro Sabre will detect it better than my Compadre. Euro gets 4" + on this chain.
If it's wadded up a little it gets it deeper.
My Silver Sabre uMax will only pick it up in the threshold based all metal pin point mode.
The Silver Sabre uMax has a threshold based AM pinpoint red button like the Cibola.
Here's a video to demonstrate the Compadre.
http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd296/dcb1265/?action=view
CliffHanger
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Sorry about that-I was just excited that I HAD a machine that would. I checked it with an Ace 250, Fisher CZ5(would hum if rubbed on the coil), Bounty Hunter Tracker, Tesoro Silver umax, Tesoro Royal Sabre, and a cheapo Bounty Hunter that sold for about $40 at Walmart. I also have a Freedom Ace III, but it's all metal is not a true all metal, as it sometimes is weaker in poinpointing. Here's a scary story. My best friend and I decided to help local law officials one Halloween by looking for needles,etc., in the candy. A gentleman walked up and wanted to see it work, and produced a pin out of a shirt he had just bought-the kind of needle that holds the shirts when they are folded and put in the package. We had 4" coils and neither CZ could pick it up. The thought scared us so much that we started telling everyone to double check their candy! Sorry I am not camera-ready yet, but the gold chain is very tiny-but the bfo easily picked it up.
Yep, there's a lot to be said for the old BFO's, especially the ones by
Charlie Garrett. They were always the best ever made!
For any newbies on hand, the bfo stands for "Beat Frequency Oscillator" and
was the first major detector type back in the 50's & 60's. Fisher built the
first ones, but Garrett perfected the type with his "Master Hunter" series.
..W
Charlie Garrett. They were always the best ever made!
For any newbies on hand, the bfo stands for "Beat Frequency Oscillator" and
was the first major detector type back in the 50's & 60's. Fisher built the
first ones, but Garrett perfected the type with his "Master Hunter" series.
..W
All the modern motion detectors have trouble picking up small gold chains, they "see" only one link at a time unless the chain is wadded up.The BFO's and older TR's will usually pick up very small items like that better and I suppose the gold detectors with a high operating frequency will do a good job also.
Then if you add the ground matrix to the mix, it gets worse with any detector. That pin may be made out of stainless steel which usually produces a low conductive reading and given its size, would make it hard to pick up a signal. Maybe a VLF gold detector would be best for this kind of detecting?
Then if you add the ground matrix to the mix, it gets worse with any detector. That pin may be made out of stainless steel which usually produces a low conductive reading and given its size, would make it hard to pick up a signal. Maybe a VLF gold detector would be best for this kind of detecting?
There are gold dedicated metal detectors that do much better, especially in
harsh ground conditions. However, they may not be the best for coin shooting
and jeweler hunting. Same may be said for BFO, I don't know....But:
Any of the more modern Tesoroes with a true ED 180 discriminator will respond
to tiny gold chains that don't have a clasp or loop on the end. Even in the disc
mode.
Just look at my video with the Compadre.
They will respond even better in the threshold based all metal mode.
Tesoroes are higher frequency than a lot of popular MD's. They are fast and I find
a lot of small gold jewelry with them.
Look at the little round piece of 10k gold next to the golden ear ring.
Now that is harder to find than a tiny chain without a clasp, in my opinion.
And I'm the one who found them.
HH,
harsh ground conditions. However, they may not be the best for coin shooting
and jeweler hunting. Same may be said for BFO, I don't know....But:
Any of the more modern Tesoroes with a true ED 180 discriminator will respond
to tiny gold chains that don't have a clasp or loop on the end. Even in the disc
mode.
Just look at my video with the Compadre.
They will respond even better in the threshold based all metal mode.
Tesoroes are higher frequency than a lot of popular MD's. They are fast and I find
a lot of small gold jewelry with them.
Look at the little round piece of 10k gold next to the golden ear ring.
Now that is harder to find than a tiny chain without a clasp, in my opinion.
And I'm the one who found them.
HH,