RingProfessional
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I have found the army combat utility belt to be usefull for storing finds in the zipped pockets , here is a picture of my new digger - awesome! 
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Combat utility belt and digger.
- Thread starter RingProfessional
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Hi.
Yes, the digger is the best there is. Beware some china made copies that are sold in thousands maybe. The steel bends on small roots and the removal of even small rocks. My son has one, grrrr.The Leche seems like it cant be destroyed at all. Eventually it will loose much of its with though, but that will take years and years.
Nice belt, will try to find me one.
bfodnes
Yes, the digger is the best there is. Beware some china made copies that are sold in thousands maybe. The steel bends on small roots and the removal of even small rocks. My son has one, grrrr.The Leche seems like it cant be destroyed at all. Eventually it will loose much of its with though, but that will take years and years.
Nice belt, will try to find me one.
bfodnes
RingPowers
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I bought it from predator tools so it is definitely the real thing , i bought the trowel because on some sites like parks and other recreational fields carrying a mini shovel can get you thrown off , at least the lesche digger can be sort of hidden in the holster so as not to attract too much attention (hopefully) to the digging aspect. Out in open country side though i would still use a mini shovel long handled type of digger with foot assistance. I do get fed up with some of the hassle on recreational fields sometimes , i have to say no one has ever said i made a mess they just don't like the IDEA of you digging. Anyone thinking of taking the hobby up should be well prepared for confrontations with all kinds of people, this is a part of metal detecting i hate - The aggressive anti detecting person! Who knows nothing about what you are doing - i now tell them to piss off and call who ever they like- i really don't care who turns up police or anyone else for that matter , they cant do anything anyway so long as your recovery's are like "good plastic surgery" IE no one can tell you have cut the ground. Happy hunting. 
I don't understand why some people get hassled so much. I always get permission and sometimes the park managers even recommend where to look. As for private property owners,I have been turned down only once in the last year and his farm was on a battlefield and had just been planted in wheat. I take along my extra detector and offer to let the property owner go with me. My local Garrett dealer then on a few occasions have sold detectors to them.
I suppose I am just one of the fortunate ones.
Happy Hunting.
John D.
I suppose I am just one of the fortunate ones.
Happy Hunting.
John D.
RingProfessional
New member
Youe lucky if you have not been approached by a jerk. It happens to us all at sometime or other. happy hunting.:O
HI
I haven't had any one come up to me and say some thing. I get some people that look at me like they never seen some one with a md .I have had people make coment's. but nothing bad, yet! But ,i live in a small area,and their is no body that us'es a md,that i no of. I probly get some jark that will say something. I hope that this hobby stays a round for a long time,I hate to see it get banded totly from us all, i just got in to this hobby and whould hate to give it up.
priscilla
I haven't had any one come up to me and say some thing. I get some people that look at me like they never seen some one with a md .I have had people make coment's. but nothing bad, yet! But ,i live in a small area,and their is no body that us'es a md,that i no of. I probly get some jark that will say something. I hope that this hobby stays a round for a long time,I hate to see it get banded totly from us all, i just got in to this hobby and whould hate to give it up.
priscilla
I now think I understand why some people get hassled.
1. Detecting without permission.
2. Referring to land owners as ----heads, jerks, idiots etc.
3. Disrespect for authority.
4. Disrespect toward curious people who are only interested in your hobby.
5. In this day and time, anyone should know that detecting near a military base is a real BIG NO NO.
Generally speaking, people treat you the way you act toward them.
If you are being denied permission to hunt or are being hassled, check your own attitude before you judge others.
1. Detecting without permission.
2. Referring to land owners as ----heads, jerks, idiots etc.
3. Disrespect for authority.
4. Disrespect toward curious people who are only interested in your hobby.
5. In this day and time, anyone should know that detecting near a military base is a real BIG NO NO.
Generally speaking, people treat you the way you act toward them.
If you are being denied permission to hunt or are being hassled, check your own attitude before you judge others.
RingProfessional
New member
Some of the things you have just stated are true and some are not too accurate. First of all let me state a few facts that are very true.
1. Getting permission to detect on a site does NOT in any way guarantee that you can detect without been approached by people who have no good reason to and no authority to ask you what you are doing or ask you if you have permission , they can on occasion seem aggressive - i get VERY MAD to this kind of person if they persist with mouthing - simple.
2 When i am detecting without permission i accept i may be shot dead or worse bad mouthed at by someone. I accept this.
3 i would always try to obtain permission to detect on a piece of land but this is not always easy to get fast, so i may "test drive" the piece of land with the MD for say half an hour to see whats buried generally, then leave for good if the site is considered crap, if the site seems worthwhile i would obtain permission for sure so that i could spend time clearing the site out without hopefully any hassle from people with mental conditions like dog walkers and greedy landowners.
I don't think detecting on a remote countryside field for a few minutes without permission is anything to be considered anti social as a 5 inch garden trowel is totally harmless.
The time team on UK TV have permission to use jcb's to excavate peoples gardens and make farmers fields look like things that resemble building sites- all to recover treasure, so i don't feel like i am causing any damage in the slightest by cutting a 5 inch deep plug with a trowel. Happy hunting.
BE WARNED :- IF YOU USE A METAL DETECTOR SOMETIMES BE PREPARED FOR A DEGREE OF BAD HASSLE AND HYPERTENSION!.
1. Getting permission to detect on a site does NOT in any way guarantee that you can detect without been approached by people who have no good reason to and no authority to ask you what you are doing or ask you if you have permission , they can on occasion seem aggressive - i get VERY MAD to this kind of person if they persist with mouthing - simple.
2 When i am detecting without permission i accept i may be shot dead or worse bad mouthed at by someone. I accept this.
3 i would always try to obtain permission to detect on a piece of land but this is not always easy to get fast, so i may "test drive" the piece of land with the MD for say half an hour to see whats buried generally, then leave for good if the site is considered crap, if the site seems worthwhile i would obtain permission for sure so that i could spend time clearing the site out without hopefully any hassle from people with mental conditions like dog walkers and greedy landowners.
I don't think detecting on a remote countryside field for a few minutes without permission is anything to be considered anti social as a 5 inch garden trowel is totally harmless.
The time team on UK TV have permission to use jcb's to excavate peoples gardens and make farmers fields look like things that resemble building sites- all to recover treasure, so i don't feel like i am causing any damage in the slightest by cutting a 5 inch deep plug with a trowel. Happy hunting.
BE WARNED :- IF YOU USE A METAL DETECTOR SOMETIMES BE PREPARED FOR A DEGREE OF BAD HASSLE AND HYPERTENSION!.
Imagine for a moment how we would react if one morning one of us went out and found someone rummaging through our glove compartment. That is the same way a landowner would react when he finds us on his property without permission.
If we ask and a landowner says "NO" then move on.
If we don't ask and get caught, then we deserve to get a "NO" because we are trespassing.
To me the magic word is "RESPECT OTHERS."
If we ask and a landowner says "NO" then move on.
If we don't ask and get caught, then we deserve to get a "NO" because we are trespassing.
To me the magic word is "RESPECT OTHERS."
haven't you come across "the boss" the person that likes to try to tell everyone else what they can not do because they feel that every thing in the world runs according to their whim. lots of nosey old biddy types / blue bloods in high dollar areas that don't wanr you in "their" parks or just crabby whiners or nutty ultra tree huggers who say your harming the earth. while a good additude works with 95 % of the people this 5%--1 in 20-are the folks that make it hard to be nice-they live for a fight or conflict it gets em off---so if they ask what are you doing? (i am assuming your legally there)-- I'm looking for a lost ring---then put the headphones on and go about your bussiness--- it make you look like a "white knight" nothing a "hater" can do cuz if they complain about you assisting in finding a lost ring ---well then they seem like a jerk--(p.s. it's true you are looking for a lost ring plus anything else that might pop up--you didn't say when it was lost now did ya?) so even if they call a cop you say ya I 'm looking for a lost ring alright--never know where one might be at.
I gave up on all of that a long time ago. I have resorted to a set of PVS-7B night ision goggles, and a really good ghillie suit. They can't hassle you if they never knew you were there. I do keep a taser and set of flex cuffs on me just in case someone does get uppity....I'm sure someone would find them by morning...