Cold water Gloves

[OldBeechnut]

One of the guys over on the other forum had a set of Trapper Gloves made from Atlas Gloves by a dive shop, They really looked warm, flexible, and grippe. Well they are every bit of that. My right hand was fully submerged most of the 4 hour hunt, in 35 degree waters....with not much movement and only once did I feel the need to get the blood circulating....my palm was warm so I pulled the fingers up, made a fist, moved the fingers around some to get things warm again and less then a minute I was ready to go under again... Left hand was fine but only submerged when digging. These were made from a old drysuit I picked up on febay for 39.oo shipped, then the gloves were 25.oo from febay also.....I have and have use the red trapper gloves and had to use hot hands to keep my fingers warm, then trying to pick up a coin or a small screw was a task.

Anyone else have pic's of there gloves? I know Cupojo Lew, and FSA have made some also and have been a inspiration to me on these and the sifters...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-32la0lbJg&feature=youtu.be

 

[WaterWalker]

Have you used the Edmond NEOX 31" gauntlet gloves? I use them with a pair of leather gloves insulated with 200gr of THINSILATE. They do pretty well. But I must stop detecting and warm my finders as you do. . If you have used the NEOX, how do they compare to the ATLAS TEMRES 282 globes?

Looking at the video:
You insert the white plastic piece to trim the cuff material
You then insert a larger tube the size of the 282's cuff and stretch the sleeve's cuff over the 282
You then apply the Aquaseal, I would guess between the two cuffs and then a band covering the mating areas

Questions:
When you take the tube out, after the Aquaseal dries, does the cuff area collapse, bunch up and feel tight to the wrists when you wear the gloves?
The red gloves look like they were attached to a pair of 31" gauntlet gloves. Would they "fit" better to the cuffs of the 282 gloves?

Your new glove look like the cat's meow. I would love to have warm hands for 4 hours in even our 38F water.

When I have tried the dry hand warmers just do not stay warm in the gloves. I have to guess it is due to the lack of oxygen down at the hand area as when I take them out of the glove, they get warm again.

Thanks for the post.

 

[Cupajo]

[size=x-large]When I get a bit of time I'll take a few pics of my version.

I glued a sleeve from a worn out pair of Polar Paws on one glove and as yet have not gotten it wet.

Fits great!!

CJ[/size]

 

[Water wizard]

I was just dreaming about gloves last night while detecting. My neoprene gloves have worn out where I hold the scoop, so I only wear 1 glove. I think I've got glove envy now
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[OldBeechnut]

Water walker I seen the Edmond Gauntlets but went for the trapper gloves a few years ago. They sound real good, but how are they at picking up stuff. I found the Trapper gloves a real pain to pickup stuff, just like my 5mm neoprene's.

And you are correct on how it was done, they only thing I did not do was wrap a band around the left hand because it sealed very well. Now the right hand I cut the seal a little jagged and it tore, so I ended up wrapping an 3 inch wide piece of Gortex around with Aquaseal. .

Amazing I had cut the seal down enough to were it did not pinch the glove, turned out perfect but there are things I would do different next time. Next time I will let all air dry a little before I put everything together. The two mating surfaces wanted to slip away, slide down. So I had to keep pulling it up then the right hand ripped. So next time I will let all cure a little then slap it together. Live and learn.
The red gauntletsI bought from the same place you got your Edmonds, they are on page two...

Yes you are right about the hand warmers, I used them with the red gauntlets and they work great for awhile but after a couple hours die from lack of the activating source, the big "O", And same problem with the foot warmer. But I finally found a good fix for that, regular pair of soxs....then I use the 5mm neoprene sox with a pair of redhead wool soxs over that, along with a plastic bag over each foot. Had a few ask why a plastic bag, ..answer..feet slip in and out of the waders boots easy, even when tight. Also the feet must keep moving, I stand in one place with not much movement, they will start to get chilled, so moving for me helps keep the blood flowing....Now what do you use on your feet?


Water wizard, I have the same gloves, I can't pick up a thing...and those were good to the low 40's then the water was just to cold. I'm getting old and like to be warm...



check out this vid of me trying to pick up a silver quarter....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj4zQKupYDs



Lew, I love your work buddy...

 

[WaterWalker]

I have not seen or tried the Trapper Gloves. The Edmond NEOX are tough, but it is difficult to pick up a coin from a flat surface. I do not use a sifter often. With the scoop I can slide a coin, pull tab, etc. down to the edge and "pinch" it out. I have only dropped one ring, but was lucky enough to find it again.

What camera do you use in making your videos? How do you have it mounted? I just purchased a Pentax WG-3gps, an OUTSTANDING all around tough camera. I have a chest mount, but just have not had a chance to try it out in the water. I am waiting for warmer weather so I do not have to wear gloves. That in itself would be a challenge! My first underwater video came out amazing, at least for my first shot at it.

The best help for cold feet that I found was wearing a pair of socks that wicked away the perspiration. This also goes for any part of your body. You can sweat out over a quart of water in a 4 hour hunt and where does it go, but in your waders. I have been told that even breathable waders do not "breath" underwater! I know I can not without additional gear.

If you love Lew's work, you should try detecting with him. A really wonderful detectorist and person. I had often wished I had his beach in MY back yard. I could not have that, so I retired to Cape Cod and have never regretted but for one thing. That would be the friends, club and some of the detecting areas I hunted.

Thanks for the info on the gloves. I will try "building a pair" I love the warmth and the agility of the 282s. I would have never thought about the gortex.

May the ring of gold by in your ears and the glitter in your scoop.

 

[Water wizard]

That looked tricky mate! It seams like you've got a clay bottom, I've just been hunting that. It's so hard to get the target out of the clay! I like you floating sifter, very nice. You could attach a small hand trowel/scoop to the sifter and scoop the targets up from the sifter with that? Gloves make everything so damn fiddley! You've got a great set up there, camera as well. Very cool

 

[Cupajo]

This is a way to use up the part of the Polar Paws gauntlets that seem to last the best, the sleeves.

They ain't pretty, but should work just fine!!

I cut the old glove off (Only one so far) slid a 4"PVC glue pipe coupling inside the glove and slid the sleeve over an inch of the glove. It was really too tight a fit and before I do the second one I will find a different "Form" to use.I worked a bead of Loctite Fabric/vinyl & plastic glue into the 1" overlap contact area and let it dry. After it sat overnight I rolled the sleeve back exposing the back of the glove inside of the sleeve and worked glue deep into the 1" join.

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After that set up I ran beads of the glue along the inside and outside surfaces of the join to fill any voids and dress up the seams. I dressed the sleeve seams with a liberal application as well.

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They are cheap at about $14.00 a pair and very flexible and lined with a deep warm pile. I'm don't know how they will fare when water gets inside, but will have to wait and see. (These are the cheaper version of the glove Joe (OBN) used.)

Now if I can just get out there----------

 

[OldBeechnut]

Lew that looks Great buddy. Keep us informed, I want to get another set and replace the red gloves, like you,.. I just may cut the things off and use the best part..the green sleeves.


Water Wizard, You nailed it on the clay bottom. A real pain in the butt, And it really kills the depth of the Excalibur. I doubt if I get more then 6 to 8 inchs with my little 8oo. And I seem to loose targets when digging, but finally figured out were they were going. I would dig, and pull up the scoop only to find it half full. Well the front half of the "plug" was flipping forwards. Sometimes the target would be in that large plug. So I have to go and stomp it flat then dig it again...Fun Fun Fun...



Water Walker, I use the Tachyon Xc..A real old vid cam maybe 6 years old now, I just purchased another for 45 dollars off febay. At one time they were 165.oo now cheap and out dated. It takes good vids if it is sunny, and fair when cloudy. Nothing like todays cams. I posted my first vid here on findmall in 2008...did several over the years, and the biggest secret is..when you find something good...put your hand over the camera, so when your editing..you just look for the blank spots when fast forwarding..or you will spend several hours watching the hunt again. The one reason I stayed with the Tachyon, battery life....video is fair but it will record 6+ hours on rechargeables and 18 hour strait on the good batteries, forgot there names it's been so long since I purchased them..Most cams today will be lucky to get 3 hours but they are amazingly perfect video. Good Luck and please let us know when you post vid...And may your summer be Golden also....

 

[Barry NY]

I had to buy a dozen to get them in my size - they are cut small - you will need the largest size available.
So I have extras for anyone that needs to buy one.
Give me a PM if you need a pair.

One of the guys over on the other forum had a set of Trapper Gloves made from Atlas Gloves by a dive shop, They really looked warm, flexible, and grippe. Well they are every bit of that. My right hand was fully submerged most of the 4 hour hunt, in 35 degree waters....with not much movement and only once did I feel the need to get the blood circulating....my palm was warm so I pulled the fingers up, made a fist, moved the fingers around some to get things warm again and less then a minute I was ready to go under again... Left hand was fine but only submerged when digging. These were made from a old drysuit I picked up on febay for 39.oo shipped, then the gloves were 25.oo from febay also.....I have and have use the red trapper gloves and had to use hot hands to keep my fingers warm, then trying to pick up a coin or a small screw was a task.

Anyone else have pic's of there gloves? I know Cupojo Lew, and FSA have made some also and have been a inspiration to me on these and the sifters...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-32la0lbJg&feature=youtu.be

 

[NamVetLesTreasureSeeker]

I might be interested, but IT was not CLEAR what extras you had!! If YOU want to call me instead, my CELL is (302) 354-5661. Les Robinson.

 

[OldBeechnut]

I got another set of Atlas Gloves, this time from Extreme Detecting and they are perfect for my needs being they are XXL. When detecting my right hand got chilled once from not moving and being submerged several hours in 35 degree water, more insulation would have prevented this, with these I can slip a glove inside and still pick up small items......Now I have to get to work on another set of Gauntlets



[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8I0YgYhG8I[/video]

 

[Barry NY]

The Atlas blue gloves that Old Beechnut used...

I might be interested, but IT was not CLEAR what extras you had!! If YOU want to call me instead, my CELL is (302) 354-5661. Les Robinson.

 

[fongu]

The first time I hunted in the water was in the fall and winter of 2012 and I used a rainsuit top and duct taped some carb cleaning gloves to it and it got the job done. Had to remove duct tape to take them off and put them back on, but not very flexible. I emailed some of the trapper suppliers and several recommended some gloves but one told me that if I got the warm gloves I would sacrifice flexibility and if I got flexible gloves, I would sacrifice warmth. I went to the outlet store where I bought my under armor tops and bottoms and got some boot socks, an UA hoodie or balaclava and some supposed to be waterproof UA gloves. The gloves and hoodie were expensive, but the gloves keep my hands warm. They do get wet, but they work like the wetsuit I rented and kept me warm as long as I was in the water. They work great and I can't say if they are more or less flexible as the trapper gloves, but they work for me. Of course, I'm not out in the ocean or those cold Northern lakes either.

 

[NamVetLesTreasureSeeker]

Hi Barry, How much are a SET of the gloves, and what SIZES do you have? Les Robinson.

 

[Barry NY]

I bought a 12 pack of the XXL because I couldn't find that size anywhere and I found the XL was too small (they run small) - so I am just selling off the extras after keeping a few pair for me.
They are $23.95 shipped - lowest price you will find for them for any size anywhere.

Hi Barry, How much are a SET of the gloves, and what SIZES do you have? Les Robinson.

 

[NamVetLesTreasureSeeker]

n/t.