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COINSTRIKE or CZ3D

to that question and so much depends on the person and where/what they will be using it for. For me, hunting older pounded sites for the scraps that are left and willing to dig any and all iffy targets the only "correct" answer is the C$. Now others have tried it for that same scenerio and went with the 70 or 3D with better success. Hopefully you can try both and see which one fits you, works well at the type sites you hunt and becomes your "confidence machine".

Tom.
 
You may want to go read about the detectors in question a little better on the Fisher home page.

The CZ-3d is really designed for specialized detecting. Fisher recommends the 3d be used at sites earlier than the 60
 
if you hunt modern sites say post 1960's with a lot of junk, you will mostlikely be dissapointed in the results of the CZ3d, especially if your hunting along side someone with a CZ5, which was replaced by the CZ3d.

Now older sites, the CZ3d is a good machine as long as theres very little trash, because you will dig a lot of trash with the 3d. Also as far as nickels go, I still have yet to find a nickel with the 3d that hit in high tone and registered nickel on the meter. Nickels always hit round pulltab on my 3d with mid-tone, I then flip to salt to check every pulltab before digging it to see if it says nickel. Also if you want to notch out zinc, the only way to do it is to flip to salt mode and turn discrimination all the way up to 6. But it enhanced mode, no way to notch out zinc.

Now, on the C$, this machine as Mr. Bill says is more universal. Its a great coin, relic & beach machine. I always tell people when asked about the learning curve is that it took me a good 40 hours to really become comfortable with C$. But some have picked up on it right away (lucky them) because I think most don't and that is why there are so many listed for sale or trade. The C$ is a commitment machine like the Explorer & DFX, yes, I place the C$ up there with the top machines because Its every bit as good and in some cases even better then the other two top detectors.

Now, ou also have the ID Excel, which is almost half the money of the Coinstrike but packs a lot of the C$ features. It too is a good relic, coin & beach machine as well from what i hear and for the bucks its probably the best deal going on a new detector.

Just a few ramblings from someone who has nothing better to do then throw in his 1 1/2 cents.

Good luck,
Mike
 
if zinc pennys don't i.d. as zinc then it would seem that fisher made a mistake on the detector. they say that the advanced mode moves some odd coins up in the i.d. range but you're saying that nickels are moved down. arew the zincs moved up or down.
 
Amost every old nickel I find reads higher,like a penny.They develop halos that make them look larger,which kicks the id up.I hunted an old school last week and found several nickels at the 8-10" range.I think they were all from the 40's and 50's.They all sounded like screwcaps or pennies.But since they were deep and it was an old school,I dug them.That's why i'm not so sure about the Cz3d.It sounds and probably is works great for isolated coins near the surface.But when their deeper,have halos or other trash around it,forget your meter.You need a good tone id to pick those coins out.Dave
 
If you want deep and hunt in very Mineralized soil .I would go with the C$ . I've tried allot of different detectors and the only two I have now are the C$ and a EX 2 . Most of the time I don't know which one to use first at a new site . There both great detectors .... But when I don't want to listen to allot of noise I'll use the C$ first
 
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