Coinstrike Opinions.

[Coin$triking Michigan]

Howdy all, My name is Jason and I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I just got my second CS as I had to sell my first when I was off of work. I just traded an Omega8000 for another CS because I love them so much. I really hate all the bad press regarding the CS. I hate the fact that just because some of it's features don't appeal to some, they say it's junk. I was just curious of your opinions on the CS. I for one think it's the best coinshooter ever and it is an indian head magnet.

 

[MarkCZ]

Hi, and welcome to the forum

I like mine pretty much but I had a bad go around with it at first due to a bad coil.
The worse thing about it for me is the membrain touch pad for the pinpoint, a front mounted toggle is a hundred times better, using your thumb to reach up and push the button reduces your grip on the handle to much.

Next thing is going through the menu everytime to change a settings isn't a great thing.

Last thing, the detector has pretty good depth if you can run the sensitivity up to around 7 or 8 and many times I can, but the detector is very sensitive to EMI so sometimes I end up running it at a sensitivity of around 2 and that's a fair amount of depth loss.

Mark

 

[Coin$triking Michigan]

I always understood the complaints about the membrane buttons and the menu. My biggest complaint was battery placement personally. The point I always try to make in regards to the CS is that people always say it sucks because of those very reasons, not performance itself. Maybe it's this Michigan soil but damn it runs deep here. Good high numbers with a soft ping is always deep coins for me. I can't stand people who jump on the bandwagon and use the exact same setup as everyone else. Etracs w/Sunray Probe's, and Lesche Diggers everywhere gets pretty old fast and shows how willing people are to be sheep.

 

[MarkCZ]

I think a lot of bad rap (or bad post) about the CS started out with them having bad coils and not really knowing it! I bought mine and I thought what a piece of junk! it was nuts. You had to run it at a sensitivity setting of 2 and the threshold of -40 and still was nuts!
It kind of acted like a metal detector but just a real bad one. US quarters would fall into penny/dime range, copper pennies would fall into Zinc range, nickles fell into foil range or iron. Much of the trouble I had with mine I found in other post of CS haters. The only thing that saved me was a co-worker order one off ebay around the same time I did and he kept on saying he really liked his, well one day we met up and he tried mine and said it was screwed up! so then we switched control heads then his went nuts and mine ran like a real detector. So, I found a forum member here that had a OEM CS coil and the rest is history, mine has ran like a real detector ever sense.
I can't prove it but I'm pretty certain that they were a batch of bad coils that got out of the factory for the CS. If I hadn't had another to compare it with I would have just thought the detector was junk and had to have thrown it in the trash, I couldn't have sold it to nobody, I really thought I was stuck and with no money to buy another detector.

With the bad coil the detector acted like it had BAD!!!! EMI problem's so bad that you couldn't find a place that it would run. It would false, it wouldn't bell tone over a car hood @ 1". it that condition the detector was JUNK! The coil switch was just a last ditch effort. I kept thinking I didn't have the smarts to run it, I set everythign everywhere and I never dreamed the problem was a bad coil.

The dislikes I posted doesn't mean I hate it, it was just some of my dislikes. One thing for sure it has an excess of headphone POWER! I'm thinking about getting a set of Gray Gost headphones with the volume limiter.

Mark

 

[WV62]

The dislikes I posted doesn't mean I hate it, it was just some of my dislikes. One thing for sure it has an excess of headphone POWER! I'm thinking about getting a set of Gray Gost headphones with the volume limiter.

Mark

Gray Gost will fix that problem.

Brother Ron in WV

 

[MarkCZ]

The dislikes I posted doesn't mean I hate it, it was just some of my dislikes. One thing for sure it has an excess of headphone POWER! I'm thinking about getting a set of Gray Gost headphones with the volume limiter.

Mark

Gray Gost will fix that problem.

Brother Ron in WV

Yea, the next problem is the $80.00 to fix not having a set of the Gray Gost headphones
Mark

 

[jabbo]

I bought a used C$ about 2 months ago. Compared it to my ID Edge in a cornfield last week. Didn't locate any deep coins but both gave about the same quality signal on deep brass rivets. I thought it was going to be way deeper than the Edge, but it seems like they both have about the same depth. It has way more bells and whistles than I need in my mild soil and I can run it at 10 Sensitivity and 0 Threshold with almost no falsing or I will drop Sens down to 9. I noticed that the Edge needs less sweeps to produce a repeatable signal on the deeper targets. I almost always grab the Edge when I go out since they perform about equally in the field and the Edge is lighter weight. I hooked up an external battery pack with rechargeables so I don't have to go thru the hassle of replacing the batts, I just plug the charger into the pack for 1-2 hours. It will run on one 9 volt batt as will the Edge. All in all, I think the C$ is a cool detector even tho it has more features than I need.

 

[Coin$triking Michigan]

I bought a used C$ about 2 months ago. Compared it to my ID Edge in a cornfield last week. Didn't locate any deep coins but both gave about the same quality signal on deep brass rivets. I thought it was going to be way deeper than the Edge, but it seems like they both have about the same depth. It has way more bells and whistles than I need in my mild soil and I can run it at 10 Sensitivity and 0 Threshold with almost no falsing or I will drop Sens down to 9. I noticed that the Edge needs less sweeps to produce a repeatable signal on the deeper targets. I almost always grab the Edge when I go out since they perform about equally in the field and the Edge is lighter weight. I hooked up an external battery pack with rechargeables so I don't have to go thru the hassle of replacing the batts, I just plug the charger into the pack for 1-2 hours. It will run on one 9 volt batt as will the Edge. All in all, I think the C$ is a cool detector even tho it has more features than I need.

I guess my point was, nice finds can be made with detectors other than Etracs.

 

[MarkCZ]

I guess my point was, nice finds can be made with detectors other than Etracs.

The metal detector you mentioned seems to excell on deep silver coins, but falls on its face finding gold (that's the best I can do without bashing) My area silver is about all gone, so jewelry is the next best option. I have a co-working that has a 4 month old E-trac with a hord of coils and he has it on ebay right now for sale, Oh, and he's the guy with the CS and the CS isn't for sale!

Mark

 

[Coin$triking Michigan]

I just wish people wouldn't bash things simply because they don't like the design of something. It is a great detector regardless of how shitty the engineering is. Like I said, I think people worry too much about what everyone else uses and jump on the bandwagon like sheep.

 

[MarkCZ]

I just wish people wouldn't bash things simply because they don't like the design of something. It is a great detector regardless of how shitty the engineering is. Like I said, I think people worry too much about what everyone else uses and jump on the bandwagon like sheep.

The latest, greatest, thing out there is marketed (hyped) to be FAR superior than anything before it! but most every time falls WAY short of its marketing hype.

I have read a good number of post that stated that the CS was just a bit ahead of its time and they gave it a really good review. Its my understanding that Fisher (now First Texas) dropped the models like the CS due to high production cost (to me and you that means not enough profit margin). A FT employee wrote that the coils for the CS took a lot to make and were difficult to build. The CS fell in about the time of the old fisher and new fisher turn over, so the NEW Fisher went straight for production cost cut when the took over.
But the many folks that had a CS with a good coil and took the time to learn it generally had good things to say about the detector.

Mark

 

[Coin$triking Michigan]

And look at the build quality of the new Fisher lineup. Cheap ass, flimsy plastic. They really took a turn for the toilet.

 

[MarkCZ]

Keep in mine that this forum has a lot of sponsors and First Texas is one so, stating are dislikes and likes is okay but if we get to far into trashing a company in a topic then the topic will probably get deleted.

Mark

 

[Coin$triking Michigan]

So we can't give an honest review of a product we have used?

 

[Mr.Bill]

enough of the bashing. The forum was set up to have meaningful talks about the older Fisher detectors, that for the most part are not being manufactured any more.

Your new here, so we can let it slide this time.

And look at the build quality of the new Fisher lineup. Cheap @#$%&, flimsy plastic. They really took a turn for the toilet.

 

[Coin$triking Michigan]

Maybe I don't understand. Giving an honest evaluation of products I have used is bashing?

 

[Coin$triking Michigan]

enough of the bashing. The forum was set up to have meaningful talks about the older Fisher detectors, that for the most part are not being manufactured any more.

Your new here, so we can let it slide this time.

And look at the build quality of the new Fisher lineup. Cheap @#$%&, flimsy plastic. They really took a turn for the toilet.

And that is exactly was I was trying to do. How the Classic Fishers are so much better than the current stable.

 

[Mr.Bill]

And look at the build quality of the new Fisher lineup. Cheap @#$%&, flimsy plastic. They really took a turn for the toilet.

[size=large]This we don't need. If you have trouble understand that, I can help you real quick.[/size]

 

[Coin$triking Michigan]

Ohh I see. I apologize. Wasn't my intent to bash anything. I just like the appreciation of the old Fishers here.

 

[Mr.Bill]

n/t