Coin Strike learning curve ? to others

[Bill G]

I heard all these storys before I got my Coin Strike about the learning curve and how it was not like a CZ and if you loved a CZ you may not like a Coin Strike. Yes it is a different machine than the CZ (being a CZ70 user myself) and it needs to be approached with that in mind. For me I did not find the Coin Strike hard to learn or understand at all after a short time I felt very at ease with the unit and I learn more every time I hunt with it.The long learning curve everyone talks about was just not there for me no were near the 40 to 50 hrs everyone talks about. I went the long way around to ask but has anyone else took to the Coin Strike quickly like myself ?, I found it pretty easy to use and understand. The trick was understanding the relationship between the threshold and sinsitivity adjustments. I did not state any of this to sound bold or start anything with anyone, I was just wondering again if there were others that took to the Coin Strike quickly and liked it from the get go ?.


Take Care,

Bill G.

 

[allhuntedout]

the grunty sounding tones were initially a big turn off for me, but after using it, I got used to them. I'm still not sure how convinced I am about depth with it, but I've gotta wait until we have some rain and I can really do some digging. My general feeling is that the CZ goes deeper than the C$, but the C$ really ignores iron. I have one old house/farm site full of iron I'm looking forward to trying the C$ at to see how it does. I'd like a SunRay inline probe for the C$ as I've been really spoiled by the one on my CZ, and miss it when I use the C$. I think XLT users will a have a shorter learning curve with the C$.

 

[mtdoramike]

then after 40 or so hours, I really liked it. But if you picked up the C$ and automatically fell in love with it and picked up on its operation without a pretty lengthy learning curve, then I applaud you. But I went from a CZ5 & CZ70 to the C$ and found it rather frustrating as do quite a lot of folk. This is why so many turn up on the classifieds for sale or trade. People just don't want to take the time to learn the machine, which is ashame. Because its one of the best machines on the market.

 

[Bugar In. USA]

I went from garrett,whites, CZ5, Minelab,Tesoro,Shadow,oh yeah BH's, too, and other stuff, took me bout 2 or 3 hr to get it figgered out to workable, the rest is just experimenting with different stuff, i have about 28-29 months with C$'s and really likeum, just carry the manual nearby and look at it when you get baffeled, it won't take long at all, and besides that it's fun experimenting with all the different settings to see what you can do. fun machines,

 

[Bill G]

I have to say the depth is real good in my area, comparable with my CZ. I used an XLT and the MXT for a long time, also owned a XLPro 6000 machine that I liked best out of the Whites detectors before switching to the CZ70Pro which I love. This may have helped with the learning curve on the Coin Strike. It is a coin toss between the CZ and the Coin Strike on which one to use when I go out hunting. I use the Coin Strike at iron infested old home sites and the CZ70 at parks and the beach. I do like the way the Coin Stike works if adjusted correctly in areas littered with small iron trash. I also use a threshold hum when I can to maintain the most depth and find this to work well. If I get chatter or to much falsing I will turn the Sinsitivity down a little first and try to maintain the hum before I start backing the threshold down. Sometimes you just got to back them both down. The CS is one of those detectors that needs to be adjusted correctly for the site or ground being hunted, more so than other detectors out there. I feel this is what makes it such a usable machine over all.

Take Care,

Bill G

 

[Hawkeye Jim]

I thought the C$ was extremely easy to use - loved it right from the start - one thing though, I went from a 1266X to the C$, so the four tones was totally new to me - HH - Hawkeye Jim.

 

[MikeW]

not sure how many hrs I have had on several coinstrikes, but the more I use it the more I really enjoy it.No false coin signals that are iron on the cz,but I like my cz also))))

 

[Tony (NC)]

I tinkered with it in a park for about an hour and then went to an old home site and my first find was a Walking Liberty half! I only used my CZ7a one other time after that (on a beach) and about a year later, my CZ got adopted by Bavaria Mike!

 

[Bill Ladd]

That folks trying one now have a much better advantage, than say when it first came out. With the tips guide & this forum I'm sure that helps. I was flying blind during the field test. The manual was not all that detailed, & it was very confusing at first to me. I also did the infamous "notch" out of all the squares too! The biggest problem when it first came out was many of us went with the "preset" which had thresh on 0, & too hot for many parts of the country. If 525 was the preset, I would not have needed 20 hours.....I also took it to the trashiest place first which is another major error.
I also think all the "Options" can confuse the begginner too. I was all hung up on trying memory, averaging/no averaging, track/no track?? Like Bill said it's all about tresh/sens. & all that other stuff is just gravy....

 

[mtdoramike]

and took it to the trashiest park in town. That was a big mistake. It like to have drove me nuts with all those numbers and beeping hahahahahahahahaha. Then I found this site and it was mostly smooth sailing after that.

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

I think some folks are meaning "learning curve" and the point at which one becomes confident in the C$ as the same thing. To me, they're two different things and don't usually happen at the same time. As others have mentioned, due to the info available on the internet and if it is utilized, the learning curve should be reduced considerably. When one becomes confident in the detector will be more related to the "sights" where one hunts and the resulting finds made. In other words, those that "learn" the C$ at a great nearly virgin historically blessed location will seemingly conquer the learning curve much faster AND become confident faster also.

 

[Hawkeye Jim]

You're right on Bill - I ordered my C$ around late winter of 2005, and I had downloaded your field test and the Tips guide and read and reviewed several times over before I ever had a chance to get out in the field due to frozen ground - that definitely helped me!!! Hawkeye Jim

 

[bhershey]

Maybe it's because I've been hunting with various detectors for so many years, and I make it a point to read the manual about a dozen times before even turning the thing on. Here is my post from last year after being out with the C$ for the first time...


May 2004...

Went to an old farmhouse property for the third time.. first time with the C$. The first two times I used the Excel, and pulled around 60 coins... 10 wheaties, silver quarter, 14k GP ring and misc nick-nacks, all under 6".

Spent about 4-5 hours there learning the C$. I ended up running sens at 9 and threshold at 0. I'm hoping I'm doing the right thing by running with the sens as high as I can and still running stable.

I ended up with...
- silver dime (61)
- 3 wheaties (41, 42, 48s)
- 11 clad (pennies, nickle, dimes and quarter)
- Uncle Sam 1949 play money 50 cent piece
- Allis Chalmers farm machinery token
- gold color medallion - under glass is a picture, looks like a soldier.
- two old buttons
- metal toy watch
- 2 glass canning jar lids (no markings)

The deepest repeatable signal I dug out was the metal toy watch... it was showing a reading of 20 and was 8 or 9" deep. I actually had a couple good signals showing #10-15 on the depth meter, but had to give up because of tree roots. I was VERY impressed with that!, just too bad I had to leave them behind UGH.

I don't know how Fisher did it to get the C$ and Excel to run so stable, but I have NO regrets selling my CZ-70 Pro(alias ChatterBox NailLover) In my hunting conditions and from just using it once, I can say the C$ already exceeds anything I've ever used.

Looks like my strategy will be to use the featherweight Excel when at a new site, then follow up with the C$.

Great first time out with the C$!!

HH,
Brian

 

[Bill G]

Interesting point on the Coin Strike Brian ( Thanks). I find myself feeling the same way about the Coin Strike the more I use it. Do not own an ID Excel But I have a CZ70Pro that I like. I find myself using the Coin Strike most all of the time for similar reasons.

Take Care,

Bill G