COIN NEXT TO IRON FERROUS SOUND

[Anonymous]

WHEN SHOULD I USE FERROUS VS. CONDUCT SOUNDS? WILL IT HELP ME IDENTIFY WHEN A COIN IS NEXT TO IRON? (I'M USING I.M. -
I'M CURRENTLY USING THE CONDUCT SOUND, I'VE BEEN DIGGING ANY REPEATABLE SIGNAL WHEN THE CROSSHAIR IS STUCK TO THE LEFT (ITS HIGH AND THUS GIVES A HIGH TONE)...UNFORTUNATELY ONLY RUSTY IRON NAILS ETC... I THOUGHT THE FERROUS SOUND MIGHT GIVE A HIGHER PITCHED SOUND IF ITS A COIN NEXT TO IRON OTHERWISE IT SHOULD BE A LOWER TONE IF ITS ONLY IRON. WILL THIS HELP ME IDENTIFY A COIN NEXT TO IRON? THANKS FOR EVERYONES HELP.

 

[Anonymous]

Hi John you have to dig some rusty nails so you dont miss the small silvers the XS will show them top left sometimes and they always sound good,Saturday after 4 hours of hunting and digging at least 10 or more of the rusty nails in concrete hard dirt at 4" to 8" deep, I dug an 1852 silver three cent pc in very fine condition that sounded just like the rusty cut nails I dug all morning,needless to say the bad memory of the nails has vanished in the elation of the 3 cent pc.The nails can be more acuratly determined using ferrous but you never know what your missing.My motto, Dig more find more <IMG SRC="/forums/images/biggrin.gif" BORDER=0 ALT="">
HH Garry

 

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[Anonymous]

Rusty nails will try to fool you and will some times. I use ferrous and IM -10 to -16, here are my tricks.
Don't decide to dig based just on the tone, use the other information the detector is giving you.
If the cursor is pegged high right when swept from all directions with only 1/4 of the cursor showing its very likely rusty iron. Probably a thick glob of it. To double check these you can cut a plug and use an X1 probe or stick a small coil in the ground, when you get closer to one of these they give off a low iron tone. Also switch to digital, if its 31, 31, 31, and never drops to the 27-30 range I keep walking.
If you are getting a high tone from one direction and a low tone when swept at 90 degrees to the first its likely a rusty nail but not always. Again watch the cursor, if its jumping back and forth between high left and high right watch how often the cursor is over in the high right coin area. If it want's to hang out in the coin area more than the iron area there maybe a coin near the iron. Sweep it from the good tone direction and keep sweeping as you circle the target, see if you can get it to lock on the good tone from more than one direction. Its a judgement call, if the cursor is hitting the coin area on a regular basis I dig them. I found several coins among rusty nails yesterday using this method.
Beware the rusty nail lying flat and pointing into your plug, they suck lemons. If I can't locate my target after I dig a plug to the depth the coin should be there I start checking the side of the hole for a rusty nail.

 

[Anonymous]

I was with BiLL when he was getting a good sounding 31 digital reading.He dug it and it was a Barber half in with some nails!I hate digital,but switch there once in a while to check a target.I have also dug nails that <b>never</b> get above 28 and there was nothing in the hole with it!
Digital is probably the big reason why some people get rid of their Explorers after brief use and never use the ironmask/smartfind screen.It is useful as a reference,but you are missing out not using the smartfind screen.(I know you do Charles,I meant in general)

 

[Anonymous]

As I dug and cussed at least 12 rusty chunks of iron today I kept telling myself to take my own advice but I just couldn't do it. I think halfs give a slightly lower tone than these iron irritations, I have 2 different silver halfs maybe I'll sweep them again to check. I hear what you are saying but I must have dug 100 rusty globs by now and still no half dollar, maybe I should just leave them for someone else to find.

 

[Anonymous]

just a solid tone.It bounced around and would bounce up to 31,but everyone says if it will bounce up to 31 it is iron,but they are wrong.And like I said,I have had broken up sounding iffies that would bounce around and hit 28 more than anything else and it was iron.I just don't trust digital!

 

[Anonymous]

To dig or not to dig I decide this way,
Tone first, the shallow ones are easy calls but on the deep targets that's when learning the tones pays off. Deep coins don't sound like shallow ones.
Smartscreen second, again shallow targets are easy decisions, on the deep ones I like to see them at least bouncing somewhere in the coin area. If its iffy then you have to consider the tone, if the tone is bad and it's not hitting the coin areas much, my limited experience has been its junk.
Digital third, if I can't decide based on tone and the smartscreen I will phone a friend. If I see solid 31's from all angles now I have three pieces of information that says this target is junk and I should walk on past. I don't always.
I dug perhaps 15 iron/coin signals over the past two days that had iffy coin signals mixed in i.e. would not repeat from two directions. I found 1 wheat for all that effort. Simple math says I would have found more coins, perhaps some silver in the time it took to dig those iron things. I would have been glad to leave that wheat for someone else.

 

[Anonymous]

if you get a signal from one direction walk in a full circle around the target trying to get that same signal from a second direction. if you can get it from a second direction then pin point and dig most times you have a legit target and not a nail fake out.personnally i turn 90 degress and if i get a null i turn 45 degrees back to my original postion if i get a small squeak i dig it.i have found silver with nails on both sides this way before. also if a silver coin is on edge it will hit 31 when you swing at the right speed and direction.learn to trust that sound the rest is just more info and can only be used as a second opinion.