Hard 2 Find
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I found this coin last summer with my X-Terra 50. Can anyone identify it?
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Coin found with X-Terra 50
- Thread starter Hard 2 Find
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I'm going to have to go with the suggestion that this is a MODERN Chinese made coin designed to resemble old Spanish silver from the 1700s.
I don't think it was designed to look like a Silver 8 Reale coin but it certainly shares three similarities with recent fakes I have seen.
Since I have not seen this type of coin before and it carries what appears to be a Spanish crest but no date, no other details like the Mint or Assayer's marks, and the smooth edge of the interior rim detail implies it was machined or moulded rather than minted. The lack of any text or a date might suggest that this was a token made for a Fair or something similar.
Three things that give it away as being a somewhat modern item for me are as follows:
1/ The Shield Lions are Filled in and are in the same shape, proportion and position of fakes I have seen.
2/ Castles are "line work" rather than correctly detailed with windows etc ... and appear next to the same type of lion on Chinese fakes.
3/ Chinese tend to design their own rims for some reason as the old design is too complex for them to master with
modern forging machines. These machines can press both faces but cannot mill the edges in the same/correct fashion.
4/ That detail & pattern around the inside of the rim is in stark contrast to Spanish coins
I realize your coin is NOT meant to be a Reale coin but the comparisons can be seen between a Fake Reale, a real Reale and your mystery coin. Hence, it may well be a mass produced token. Coins without dates tend to be identified regularly as recent wartime tokens or from modern fairgrounds in many cases.
Anyone else know more about the mystery coin type?
I don't think it was designed to look like a Silver 8 Reale coin but it certainly shares three similarities with recent fakes I have seen.
Since I have not seen this type of coin before and it carries what appears to be a Spanish crest but no date, no other details like the Mint or Assayer's marks, and the smooth edge of the interior rim detail implies it was machined or moulded rather than minted. The lack of any text or a date might suggest that this was a token made for a Fair or something similar.
Three things that give it away as being a somewhat modern item for me are as follows:
1/ The Shield Lions are Filled in and are in the same shape, proportion and position of fakes I have seen.
2/ Castles are "line work" rather than correctly detailed with windows etc ... and appear next to the same type of lion on Chinese fakes.
3/ Chinese tend to design their own rims for some reason as the old design is too complex for them to master with
modern forging machines. These machines can press both faces but cannot mill the edges in the same/correct fashion.
4/ That detail & pattern around the inside of the rim is in stark contrast to Spanish coins
I realize your coin is NOT meant to be a Reale coin but the comparisons can be seen between a Fake Reale, a real Reale and your mystery coin. Hence, it may well be a mass produced token. Coins without dates tend to be identified regularly as recent wartime tokens or from modern fairgrounds in many cases.
Anyone else know more about the mystery coin type?
. About the coin though it does seem a little suss about having no date and looks too new not to have a date on it? I'm going to say token.Hard 2 Find
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Thank you for the information and I did find it at a fair grounds.