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Coin detection depth limits . Most sites have nothing but trash in them.

R

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Many sites that i now visit are loaded with nothing but MOSTLY trash. I believe that the end of metal detecting as we know it is on the horizon, most finds these days seem to be modern coins or chewed up tins or pull tabs. My opinion is that many dealers and manufacturers will close down as people loose interest in the hobby because of ALL the trash in the ground. Some old sites that i go to look like they were good sites in there day but now all they have to offer is pull tabs. Anyone else noticed this trend ?. THE END IS NIGH.
 
Silver and old stuff dont grow in the dirt like worms and grass, when dug up there is one less.

But go to your site, any of then. Stand there and think, can you honestly say-- The last silver is dug here-- and leave. No you cant.
Probably there is many coins left and is it a big outhunted site, probably several hundreds or more.

Problem is to find them, and to do that you have to know they are there ( believe) and have the correct tool and attitude.

Do you ever find a trash object from the 50s there at 4 inches, maybe you did not even dig that 4 inch trash item, Never knowing what was below it in the dirt.

My prediction is that some of the best finds are still in the dirt, masked or too deep to quickly pass with modern detector. You need to dig trash, hunt slower then you think is too slow. There is no armageddon just a change of times and metode to detect the goodies.

The Explorer can see deep, very deep- but with the deepest signals come the use of large coils and minerals to alter IDs and trash to alter IDs too. I have passed many goodies and so have U, lets go get them the next time.

EDIT: a tip to go- Hunt during sunset , the lighted period when the sun is down or at night if u can and dare. No sun interference WILL give you a few more inches and lets the detector operate at its best, both discriminating and ID capability. That is the truth!!

bfodnes
 
I visit plenty of old sites and most pan out with finds and some don't! The explorer rules in trash sites! The sites that don't really pan out from what I've been told by the old timers is. Some people really didn't have money to loose and some were so tight with it that it was kept in a box in the house unless they were going to the store or where ever. Once home they put it back in the box. So those kinds of people didn't have money in there pockets to drop! I could go on about this but I think you get my drift.

I would be willing to talk more about it if you like.

HH
Mike
 
We also have to realize that a lot of coins are probably forever under asphalt and cement unfortunately.

John Tomlinson, CET
 
Yes, harder and harder, but not impossible. Also means far more of the coins left will be found by You that knows how difficult it is.

HH
 
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In reality a metal detector is just a radio with a loop antenna on the end of it.

John Tomlinson, CET.........END QUOTE

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I think you should get 'tuned in' on the facts then!
 
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EDIT: a tip to go- Hunt during sunset , the lighted period when the sun is down or at night if u can and dare. No sun interference WILL give you a few more inches and lets the detector operate at its best, both discriminating and ID capability. That is the truth!!

bfodnes[/quote]

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Where in the name of sanity did you dig that one up ?

You must be a visitor from the LONG RANGE LOCATERS forum.

Please BF, don't propagate myths that you can't substantiate
 
Ha ha,

Guess you have never thought about that, but you have noticed at least during listening to the car radio during night.

http://www.prostockdetectors.com/afterdark.html

And Matt, sometimes it can easily be confirmed by compare testgarden results day/night. A coin you will not find at 20 sens suddenly appears like its only 4" down.

Regards
 
This is an old thread but I am trying to learn all I can so I am reading all the old stuff too. It is indisputable that with each old silver coin that is pulled from the ground there is less to be found.

However, I think that there are still lots to be found out there. I have just begun and I am finding it easy to find coins that are from the 70's so my guess is the site is not hunted out and given more experience I will find the older deeper coins that were unfindable 10 or 20 years ago.

Fewer coins means more value per find.

Technology will improve over time so what might be unfindable today may be easily detected tomorrow.

Whats paved or covered today could easily be uncovered in the future so new sites will appear as old sites are covered.

I think few people do this as a way to make a living so people will continue to search as it is a kick wondering what you found. Everyone I am sure at one time or another is hoping for that one find that will bring a fortune but few every find it and it seems like there are lots of people on this forum and in magazines that have been doing this a long time. Not find that fortune has not made them give up.

Things change and this hobby like lots of other hobbies will change and evolve and someday it may disapear as the original poster suggests. But I am sure that will not happen in my lifetime although I am not so young/ It seems like if anything beach hunting will be popular for a long time expecially seeing what people who do that seem to find on a pretty regular basis.
 
When I think of how it was when I used my first detector back in the sixties then in comparison I understand the frustration. However I go to so many sites that don't have this problem that is virtually impossible for me to think trashy parks and other areas like that spell the end of our hobby.

As a matter of fact I take the opposite view in that a trashy park is a joy to me. I use the Explorer with the small coil and go for the trash locations in the site. I find more digging around in the trashy metals than I do in the clear area. The clean ground has been hit pretty had but it seems to me that most users shy away from the trashy locations. It is amazing what comes out of the trashy locations and the coins, rings, relics, are no more than 6 to 8 inches deep.

The trashy sites is what the manufactures of detector are working on to give us better machines to work those areas. I read all the time of better discrimination, quicker recovery, and the other features to enables us to pick through the trash metals.
 
used to to be called "clear channel stations". The stations from others countries didn't seem to need authorization. I don't see what this has to do with metal detecting.
 
Smaller coils, better discrimination, faster response and recovery speeds. When you're talking trash, you're talking my language ! :clapping:

I've always said, and have always believed, there is alot more treasure hidden amongst the trash due to target masking, poor discrimination, slow machines, or inadequate operators than there ever will be "un-reachable" targets due to depth.

Ralph
 
Well, I must be in good company because that is where I do most of my hunting, that is in trashy areas. Even if I don't find much on a given hunt, the challenge of finding anything in, under and around trash keeps me going. The day someone comes out with a motion detector to match my old 100 KHZ unit in "see thru" will be a dream come for me, I'm mostly talking about iron trashy areas. Ralph, I agree, there is far more in the trashy areas than all the open areas, if we could just look thru the ground with something magical to see all the goodies in trash then everyone would want a unit that is supreme in separation, unmasking, and "see thru" ability. It does take a more patience and digging to do that hunting in trashy areas.
 
.....the more GOOD targets in an area most likely equates to more HUMAN OCCUPATION and activity in the area, and human nature being what it is, also equates to more trash in that same area. What amazes me is that more people don't stop to realize this very simple concept, something that any competent archaeologist knows inherently in his training and digging. Even back into Paleo and Archaic times, archaeologists look for "trash pits" to identify occupation sites. Anywhere human occupation has occurred for any significant period of time, there is going to be trash or waste materials left behind with the "good stuff".

Ralph
 
Dig those iffies, go in the woods near old huntable sights heck may have been a grove back then..Some say hunt after a good rain and thunderstorms, some say extremely dry ground is better as trash doesn'r mask as good..in any case silver coins are not reseeded so we have to get the ones others missed or perhaps find that real old untouched sight..Is the end of the hobby in sight(of course not) just have to work a little harder with more patience.
 
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